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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts on the Passing of Shri Balasaheb Thackeray</title>
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		<title>By: anup</title>
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		<dc:creator>anup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good riddance to bad rubbish. People have sang paeans about his role in being the counterweight to the Muslim mafia in Bombay among other things. But the man was a brute; to put it in plain terms. In addition to that he was a hypocrite; to project oneself as a renunciate (saffron robes, rudraksha necklace etc) while being involved fully in politics is nothing but hypocrisy. Worse, he is responsible for millions of Maharashtrians to be thrown back in the course of evolution by a few hundred years with his Marathi Manoos bullcrap that they gladly lapped up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good riddance to bad rubbish. People have sang paeans about his role in being the counterweight to the Muslim mafia in Bombay among other things. But the man was a brute; to put it in plain terms. In addition to that he was a hypocrite; to project oneself as a renunciate (saffron robes, rudraksha necklace etc) while being involved fully in politics is nothing but hypocrisy. Worse, he is responsible for millions of Maharashtrians to be thrown back in the course of evolution by a few hundred years with his Marathi Manoos bullcrap that they gladly lapped up.</p>
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		<title>By: ynsaripa</title>
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		<dc:creator>ynsaripa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] On passing of Bal Thackeray by Atanu Dey: This article is more about Advaita Vedanta than on Bal Thackeray. I have never read [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On passing of Bal Thackeray by Atanu Dey: This article is more about Advaita Vedanta than on Bal Thackeray. I have never read [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atanu,

A very good post. Would love to read more about Hindu -Sanatan Dharma- philosophy. Will appreciate if you write more on this subject in
near future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu,</p>
<p>A very good post. Would love to read more about Hindu -Sanatan Dharma- philosophy. Will appreciate if you write more on this subject in<br />
near future.</p>
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		<title>By: allwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>allwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i expected this post to be like the one you wrote on RAJ T who&#039;ll now try to fill the vaccum. But this info abt RIP was still interesting but I&#039;ll go with mark twain and sam harris kinda view - after death it&#039;s NOTHING. 

Some blogs have glorified this crook as hindu samrat etc. Then they deduce that india is a land of ppl who has hindu ancestors so technically he divided hindus themselves - marathis VS southerners and then the baby cub goes after northerners. Justice katju has a good one on this guy.

http://justicekatju.blogspot.no/2012/11/why-i-cant-pay-tribute-to-thackeray.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i expected this post to be like the one you wrote on RAJ T who&#8217;ll now try to fill the vaccum. But this info abt RIP was still interesting but I&#8217;ll go with mark twain and sam harris kinda view &#8211; after death it&#8217;s NOTHING. </p>
<p>Some blogs have glorified this crook as hindu samrat etc. Then they deduce that india is a land of ppl who has hindu ancestors so technically he divided hindus themselves &#8211; marathis VS southerners and then the baby cub goes after northerners. Justice katju has a good one on this guy.</p>
<p><a href="http://justicekatju.blogspot.no/2012/11/why-i-cant-pay-tribute-to-thackeray.html" rel="nofollow">http://justicekatju.blogspot.no/2012/11/why-i-cant-pay-tribute-to-thackeray.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: og</title>
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		<dc:creator>og</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love Satish Jha&#039;s &quot;vChristian&quot; term. Plenty of Bollywood movies show the hero and heroine in what does not look like a Christian household or society at all, and they romp off to a church to get married! Here&#039;s an excerpt from a recent DNA article about children and fairy tales. It&#039;s unreal in its vChristianity or vCaucasianity:

&quot;As my toddler son discovered the wonderful world of storytelling, I treated the two of us to a collection of fairy tales, &lt;b&gt;stories that you and I, and possibly every school-going child in the world are familiar with&lt;/b&gt;, stories like Rapunzel and Hansel and Gretel. [...] the darker side of such tales and what do you expect from authors that call themselves Brothers Grimm, but believe me, you don’t want to explain to a two-and-a-half-year-old why someone would want to steal a baby to punish someone for stealing from their garden! Yes, that’s the setting of the lovely-blonde-hairwashed-sweet-smelling Rapunzel story. And imagine telling your kid the story of a father who plots to abandon his children in the forest — &lt;b&gt;it totally makes sense to me why my parents never read Hansel and Gretel out to me when I was a kid: It was probably out of kindness.&lt;/b&gt;&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Satish Jha&#8217;s &#8220;vChristian&#8221; term. Plenty of Bollywood movies show the hero and heroine in what does not look like a Christian household or society at all, and they romp off to a church to get married! Here&#8217;s an excerpt from a recent DNA article about children and fairy tales. It&#8217;s unreal in its vChristianity or vCaucasianity:</p>
<p>&#8220;As my toddler son discovered the wonderful world of storytelling, I treated the two of us to a collection of fairy tales, <b>stories that you and I, and possibly every school-going child in the world are familiar with</b>, stories like Rapunzel and Hansel and Gretel. [...] the darker side of such tales and what do you expect from authors that call themselves Brothers Grimm, but believe me, you don’t want to explain to a two-and-a-half-year-old why someone would want to steal a baby to punish someone for stealing from their garden! Yes, that’s the setting of the lovely-blonde-hairwashed-sweet-smelling Rapunzel story. And imagine telling your kid the story of a father who plots to abandon his children in the forest — <b>it totally makes sense to me why my parents never read Hansel and Gretel out to me when I was a kid: It was probably out of kindness.</b>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This terrorist who just died is still causing fears in politicians. Look &lt;a href=&quot;http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/21-year-old-girl-held-for-Facebook-post-questioning-Mumbais-Bal-Thackeray-shutdown/articleshow/17276979.cms&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Girl arrested for questioning the Mumbai shutdown&lt;/a&gt;. 
This is the clinching proof that India is actually Soviet Union with elections.
It is so pathetic that they have to arrest girls for expressing their views on facebook.
Amazing what terror can do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This terrorist who just died is still causing fears in politicians. Look <a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/21-year-old-girl-held-for-Facebook-post-questioning-Mumbais-Bal-Thackeray-shutdown/articleshow/17276979.cms" rel="nofollow"> Girl arrested for questioning the Mumbai shutdown</a>.<br />
This is the clinching proof that India is actually Soviet Union with elections.<br />
It is so pathetic that they have to arrest girls for expressing their views on facebook.<br />
Amazing what terror can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Vickram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vickram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert Vadra got it right when he said that India is a banana republic.

Now a 21 year old girl is arrested for question Mumbai&#039;s shutdown after Bal Thackeray&#039;s death:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com//articleshow/17276979.cms?intenttarget=no

It is the same Mumbai police that arrested a cartoonist two months back but was never able to arrest Bal Thackeray himself for his hate speeches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Vadra got it right when he said that India is a banana republic.</p>
<p>Now a 21 year old girl is arrested for question Mumbai&#8217;s shutdown after Bal Thackeray&#8217;s death:</p>
<p><a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com//articleshow/17276979.cms?intenttarget=no" rel="nofollow">http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com//articleshow/17276979.cms?intenttarget=no</a></p>
<p>It is the same Mumbai police that arrested a cartoonist two months back but was never able to arrest Bal Thackeray himself for his hate speeches.</p>
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		<title>By: Baabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For anyone interested, the concept of Maya is extensively described in the book &quot;Maya in Physics&quot; by N C Panda. It is worth a good study.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone interested, the concept of Maya is extensively described in the book &#8220;Maya in Physics&#8221; by N C Panda. It is worth a good study.</p>
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		<title>By: Tilopa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tilopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no problem with balasaheb but what is right now happening in india shows the cult worshipping qualities of indians.

The way people worship balasaheb , the same way jhollawals worship the gandhi-maino clan.

IMO,this is the reason we as a society have never been able to retrospect what is wrong with our economy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with balasaheb but what is right now happening in india shows the cult worshipping qualities of indians.</p>
<p>The way people worship balasaheb , the same way jhollawals worship the gandhi-maino clan.</p>
<p>IMO,this is the reason we as a society have never been able to retrospect what is wrong with our economy.</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly @Yoga!!
Lot of businesses are closed, some for almost 2 days for the &quot;mourning&quot; of the passing of &quot;Dear Leader&quot;. This North Korea style strongman dictatorial culture begets North Korea style poverty.

What is the total amount of economic activity denied to law abiding citizens because of this thug? The economic cost of having a thug like this destroying commerce on his whims is astronimical. Its a shame that thug like this is lionized.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly @Yoga!!<br />
Lot of businesses are closed, some for almost 2 days for the &#8220;mourning&#8221; of the passing of &#8220;Dear Leader&#8221;. This North Korea style strongman dictatorial culture begets North Korea style poverty.</p>
<p>What is the total amount of economic activity denied to law abiding citizens because of this thug? The economic cost of having a thug like this destroying commerce on his whims is astronimical. Its a shame that thug like this is lionized.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yoga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What bothers me more than his death is the obsession with him...All this treatment as if he is a demi-God. When rowdy robinhoods are worshipped, it reflects something of the culture. I guess this is again a fall out of the poverty we live in. When governments fail, sahebs like these become heroes...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers me more than his death is the obsession with him&#8230;All this treatment as if he is a demi-God. When rowdy robinhoods are worshipped, it reflects something of the culture. I guess this is again a fall out of the poverty we live in. When governments fail, sahebs like these become heroes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vikram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vikram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atanu,
Isn&#039;t Hinduism also judgmental in that your &#039;karma&#039; (net sum of &quot;good&quot; and &quot;bad&quot; deeds) gets accumulated and affects the kind of life one leads in future incarnations?

Also, it would be great if you could clarify whether there is any particular reasoning behind you believing in Advaita / Brahman etc. (as opposed to say just being a materialist) other than a blind faith in the Upanishads etc.? (just rephrasing Hari&#039;s question above)

I&#039;ve been following your blog for 5 years now. You&#039;ll perhaps feel happy to know that it has been a great source of learning for me in all kinds of things -- philosophy, science, economics, politics -- of which I knew nothing having been taught by mediocre teachers at schools with meager infrastructure. If you don&#039;t mind a bit of feedback, here&#039;s my two cents. I find your posts about philosophy, science the best. While I understand that you subscribe to Milton Friedman school of economics, I was surprised to find very little discussion about the recession and the subsequent debate about the role of government. (bailout etc)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu,<br />
Isn&#8217;t Hinduism also judgmental in that your &#8216;karma&#8217; (net sum of &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bad&#8221; deeds) gets accumulated and affects the kind of life one leads in future incarnations?</p>
<p>Also, it would be great if you could clarify whether there is any particular reasoning behind you believing in Advaita / Brahman etc. (as opposed to say just being a materialist) other than a blind faith in the Upanishads etc.? (just rephrasing Hari&#8217;s question above)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been following your blog for 5 years now. You&#8217;ll perhaps feel happy to know that it has been a great source of learning for me in all kinds of things &#8212; philosophy, science, economics, politics &#8212; of which I knew nothing having been taught by mediocre teachers at schools with meager infrastructure. If you don&#8217;t mind a bit of feedback, here&#8217;s my two cents. I find your posts about philosophy, science the best. While I understand that you subscribe to Milton Friedman school of economics, I was surprised to find very little discussion about the recession and the subsequent debate about the role of government. (bailout etc)</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atanu -- You use the term reincarnation in one of your tweets. You also use Brahman and Advaita. What are these things? Have you experienced these things for yourself are these simply concepts for you too, as Alan Watts suggests? I don&#039;t ask this in a confrontational way. I do understand impermanence -- that is a fact of everyday life and I can verify it, both in my mind, body and the world outside. 

To me, personally, reincarnation and brahman mean nothing, although they sound very grand; I&#039;d like to know if they are true or not. If they are only concepts for me, then I don&#039;t see a difference between reincarnation and the concept of heaven. Both are just that: concepts.  

The only reality I know is the one that my senses in conjunction with my &quot;mind&quot; allow me to experience. Is there anything outside of it? I have no idea; I cannot disprove anything of course, but I really have no idea. What if this is all that is there? 

The problem is that many of us -- myself included -- conveniently believe in this Hindu/Buddhist jargon that is fed to us. Oneness/Non-Duality/Advaita are very attractive concepts, but the I personally know only duality. No matter where I turn, my &quot;I&quot; is there and so is the &quot;world&quot; that is separate from me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu &#8212; You use the term reincarnation in one of your tweets. You also use Brahman and Advaita. What are these things? Have you experienced these things for yourself are these simply concepts for you too, as Alan Watts suggests? I don&#8217;t ask this in a confrontational way. I do understand impermanence &#8212; that is a fact of everyday life and I can verify it, both in my mind, body and the world outside. </p>
<p>To me, personally, reincarnation and brahman mean nothing, although they sound very grand; I&#8217;d like to know if they are true or not. If they are only concepts for me, then I don&#8217;t see a difference between reincarnation and the concept of heaven. Both are just that: concepts.  </p>
<p>The only reality I know is the one that my senses in conjunction with my &#8220;mind&#8221; allow me to experience. Is there anything outside of it? I have no idea; I cannot disprove anything of course, but I really have no idea. What if this is all that is there? </p>
<p>The problem is that many of us &#8212; myself included &#8212; conveniently believe in this Hindu/Buddhist jargon that is fed to us. Oneness/Non-Duality/Advaita are very attractive concepts, but the I personally know only duality. No matter where I turn, my &#8220;I&#8221; is there and so is the &#8220;world&#8221; that is separate from me.</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post, especially the description of the Hindu philosophy. The whole RIP thing confirms the notion that &quot;language is a vehicle of a culture&quot;. 
In other words language has deep cultural connection to it. Cultural events needing description in England were and are different then those in India. Spoken language is not like computer language such as C++ which is same anywhere in the world.
   Context matters !!! And in case of spoken language the context is culture which is obviously intertwined with religion.
   In India if you must write in English write in terms that has the proper cultural context.
   I severly detested what Bal Thackrey&#039;s party stood for but on the day of his passing for the sake of decency I must offer condolences to his family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, especially the description of the Hindu philosophy. The whole RIP thing confirms the notion that &#8220;language is a vehicle of a culture&#8221;.<br />
In other words language has deep cultural connection to it. Cultural events needing description in England were and are different then those in India. Spoken language is not like computer language such as C++ which is same anywhere in the world.<br />
   Context matters !!! And in case of spoken language the context is culture which is obviously intertwined with religion.<br />
   In India if you must write in English write in terms that has the proper cultural context.<br />
   I severly detested what Bal Thackrey&#8217;s party stood for but on the day of his passing for the sake of decency I must offer condolences to his family.</p>
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