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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2012/07/31/happy-100th-birthday-uncle-milton/comment-page-1/#comment-171960</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kaffir, true. But that wont get you PhDs, Pulitzers and Nobels. You have to know what white masters like to hear from us brown sepoys, and cater to that. I am a regular reader of NationalInterest.in - I just don&#039;t understand how they allowed this sepoy to publish there. Too bad they don&#039;t allow comments. I wonder if there has been some regime change at that site.

This is how West cultivates the next-gen of &quot;intellectuals&quot; who will go on to represent India everywhere, and pontificate on &quot;development&quot;, &quot;equality&quot;, &quot;peace&quot; etc... For career advancement, the first-stage rocket fuel is Hindu bashing (caste, feminism, etc). We can see this process in-progress here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaffir, true. But that wont get you PhDs, Pulitzers and Nobels. You have to know what white masters like to hear from us brown sepoys, and cater to that. I am a regular reader of NationalInterest.in &#8211; I just don&#8217;t understand how they allowed this sepoy to publish there. Too bad they don&#8217;t allow comments. I wonder if there has been some regime change at that site.</p>
<p>This is how West cultivates the next-gen of &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; who will go on to represent India everywhere, and pontificate on &#8220;development&#8221;, &#8220;equality&#8221;, &#8220;peace&#8221; etc&#8230; For career advancement, the first-stage rocket fuel is Hindu bashing (caste, feminism, etc). We can see this process in-progress here.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaffir</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2012/07/31/happy-100th-birthday-uncle-milton/comment-page-1/#comment-171957</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaffir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The entire philosophy of Buddhism is predicated on renunciation and monk-hood. I fail to see how adopting Buddhism could have led to (or can lead to) &quot;more trade, more taxes, a more potent army and expansion of the empire.&quot; If anything, the ransacking of Nalanda by Khilji and the Buddhists unable to defend it, should be an eye-opener.

While Buddhism has much to admire in it, it is incompatible with trade and defense. I mean, look at Dalai Lama and how he is a refugee in India, forced to live far away from his home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire philosophy of Buddhism is predicated on renunciation and monk-hood. I fail to see how adopting Buddhism could have led to (or can lead to) &#8220;more trade, more taxes, a more potent army and expansion of the empire.&#8221; If anything, the ransacking of Nalanda by Khilji and the Buddhists unable to defend it, should be an eye-opener.</p>
<p>While Buddhism has much to admire in it, it is incompatible with trade and defense. I mean, look at Dalai Lama and how he is a refugee in India, forced to live far away from his home.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 21:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vipin Veetil will soon get his PhD in economics, as he is making all the right noises: http://pragati.nationalinterest.in/2012/07/a-lesson-from-500-bc-india/

&quot;Traders - many of whom came from the vaishya caste – grew wealthy and their economic position came in direct conflict with their position in the Hindu Caste system. ... Also Hindu ideas like &quot;ritual pollution&quot; were impractical for an economy where mercantile activities would bring people from different castes in contact with each other. Buddhism resolved this conflict. ... The spread of trade, commerce and Buddhism went hand in hand. This process came to an end with the collapse of the Mauryan Empire, breakdown of central government and reassertion of Hinduism with its caste system. ... Nehru declared profit “a dirty word” and the Hindu idea of ritual purity was reborn. ... India kept its social order largely intact except perhaps in &lt;b&gt;Kerala and West Bengal :)&lt;/b&gt; where land was redistributed. ... What India needs is an ideological shift - akin to the adoption of Buddhism. ... Buddhism meant more trade, more taxes, a more potent army and expansion of the empire. Also Buddhism allowed for the weakening of the more traditional Hindu power groups which could threaten the ruler’s grip.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vipin Veetil will soon get his PhD in economics, as he is making all the right noises: <a href="http://pragati.nationalinterest.in/2012/07/a-lesson-from-500-bc-india/" rel="nofollow">http://pragati.nationalinterest.in/2012/07/a-lesson-from-500-bc-india/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Traders &#8211; many of whom came from the vaishya caste – grew wealthy and their economic position came in direct conflict with their position in the Hindu Caste system. &#8230; Also Hindu ideas like &#8220;ritual pollution&#8221; were impractical for an economy where mercantile activities would bring people from different castes in contact with each other. Buddhism resolved this conflict. &#8230; The spread of trade, commerce and Buddhism went hand in hand. This process came to an end with the collapse of the Mauryan Empire, breakdown of central government and reassertion of Hinduism with its caste system. &#8230; Nehru declared profit “a dirty word” and the Hindu idea of ritual purity was reborn. &#8230; India kept its social order largely intact except perhaps in <b>Kerala and West Bengal <img src='http://www.deeshaa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </b> where land was redistributed. &#8230; What India needs is an ideological shift &#8211; akin to the adoption of Buddhism. &#8230; Buddhism meant more trade, more taxes, a more potent army and expansion of the empire. Also Buddhism allowed for the weakening of the more traditional Hindu power groups which could threaten the ruler’s grip.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we have to assign a share of the blame to one other person, that would be Shri MK Gandhi. I still cannot believe he supported the power-hungry Nehru for PM - who did not understand his (g)Ram rajya model for India&#039;s redevelopment, something which Milton seems to have understood. Today many small towns in US are quietly implementing ideas from our gramrajya model, focusing on hyper-local, small government, self-organized, inclusive, eco-friendly. We could have done all that and more for the past 65 years, if not for Gandhi&#039;s biggest blunder of supporting Nehru.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we have to assign a share of the blame to one other person, that would be Shri MK Gandhi. I still cannot believe he supported the power-hungry Nehru for PM &#8211; who did not understand his (g)Ram rajya model for India&#8217;s redevelopment, something which Milton seems to have understood. Today many small towns in US are quietly implementing ideas from our gramrajya model, focusing on hyper-local, small government, self-organized, inclusive, eco-friendly. We could have done all that and more for the past 65 years, if not for Gandhi&#8217;s biggest blunder of supporting Nehru.</p>
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		<title>By: Atanu Dey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atanu Dey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 06:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sailesh,

Let me take a stab in the dark and assert that you don&#039;t know the name of my grandfather. I can claim with certainty that I don&#039;t know who your grandfather was. Neither of the two gentlemen are known or remembered by people. They were ordinary people who lived out their lives in obscurity. They have no special claim to any extraordinary achievements -- just like the vast majority. Their names don&#039;t grace thousands of institutions, roads, ports, airports, prizes, etc. They did not command vast armies, did not direct the ship of state. 

Nehru, may I remind you, is hailed as India&#039;s architect, its guiding light. Do you not see that he has to be held to account? If he, like my grandfather, can be let off the hook for the disaster that India has become, shouldn&#039;t his name also be erased from all that it festoons now?

You have to choose -- either he was a visionary or he was blind. He cannot simultaneously be a great leader and also be the one who made the asinine choices that others warned him about. 

Is he entirely to blame? Yes. YES. YES!! Or do you think it was some unknown person to blame? Think for a while and tell me who was at the helm of affairs? The person who ultimately takes the decisions has to be held responsible.

Even the feeblest attempts to deflect blame from Nehru is utterly and completely silly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sailesh,</p>
<p>Let me take a stab in the dark and assert that you don&#8217;t know the name of my grandfather. I can claim with certainty that I don&#8217;t know who your grandfather was. Neither of the two gentlemen are known or remembered by people. They were ordinary people who lived out their lives in obscurity. They have no special claim to any extraordinary achievements &#8212; just like the vast majority. Their names don&#8217;t grace thousands of institutions, roads, ports, airports, prizes, etc. They did not command vast armies, did not direct the ship of state. </p>
<p>Nehru, may I remind you, is hailed as India&#8217;s architect, its guiding light. Do you not see that he has to be held to account? If he, like my grandfather, can be let off the hook for the disaster that India has become, shouldn&#8217;t his name also be erased from all that it festoons now?</p>
<p>You have to choose &#8212; either he was a visionary or he was blind. He cannot simultaneously be a great leader and also be the one who made the asinine choices that others warned him about. </p>
<p>Is he entirely to blame? Yes. YES. YES!! Or do you think it was some unknown person to blame? Think for a while and tell me who was at the helm of affairs? The person who ultimately takes the decisions has to be held responsible.</p>
<p>Even the feeblest attempts to deflect blame from Nehru is utterly and completely silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 04:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the statement
&quot;Shiny objects catch the attention of people with dim eyesight. Somewhat similarly, dim-witted people get attracted by the superficial and are unable to see the underlying reality&quot;
Whether Nehru alone is to be blamed or he was only the victim of circumstances, is not the central issue. Great leaders do not get bogged down by circumstances, they change it. Unfortunately Nehru was not.
I also tend to think that Nehru did not even understand the great history of India (although he has written the discovery of India which his sycophants rate high). India was a country with great pool of skills, enterprise and a great trading nation, because the people were free and they developed millions of local solutions around local resources (I do not think this needs any evidence, and it is not statement coming out of mere patriotism). In the name of central planning, all the local solutions were killed. For example at the time of Independence we were the biggest textile producer in the world with thousands of local designs, local production and leading to unimaginable variety- imagine what it could have done, if we had retained that position. Nehru did not even bother about it. My guess is that he was indignant of the great production and trading skills of Indians.
A great post, although it makes one feel sad that how generations of Indians are made to live in utter poverty - a poverty which is totally man/woman made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the statement<br />
&#8220;Shiny objects catch the attention of people with dim eyesight. Somewhat similarly, dim-witted people get attracted by the superficial and are unable to see the underlying reality&#8221;<br />
Whether Nehru alone is to be blamed or he was only the victim of circumstances, is not the central issue. Great leaders do not get bogged down by circumstances, they change it. Unfortunately Nehru was not.<br />
I also tend to think that Nehru did not even understand the great history of India (although he has written the discovery of India which his sycophants rate high). India was a country with great pool of skills, enterprise and a great trading nation, because the people were free and they developed millions of local solutions around local resources (I do not think this needs any evidence, and it is not statement coming out of mere patriotism). In the name of central planning, all the local solutions were killed. For example at the time of Independence we were the biggest textile producer in the world with thousands of local designs, local production and leading to unimaginable variety- imagine what it could have done, if we had retained that position. Nehru did not even bother about it. My guess is that he was indignant of the great production and trading skills of Indians.<br />
A great post, although it makes one feel sad that how generations of Indians are made to live in utter poverty &#8211; a poverty which is totally man/woman made.</p>
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		<title>By: Sailesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sailesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 03:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atanu, I agree with you that planning was a very bad decision taken by India. But do you really think Nehru should take the entire blame for that? The idea of planning developed in the first half of the twentieth century among many of the thinkers in India. Even many economists (though not all) seemed to suggest that socialism was better than free markets. I think even if Nehru had been a staunch supporter of free markets, he would not have been able to implement it in that environment. More likely, he would have been sidelined much like Patel was. I would not be so harsh as to put the blame for planning entirely on Nehru. The thinking of the entire country was geared towards planning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu, I agree with you that planning was a very bad decision taken by India. But do you really think Nehru should take the entire blame for that? The idea of planning developed in the first half of the twentieth century among many of the thinkers in India. Even many economists (though not all) seemed to suggest that socialism was better than free markets. I think even if Nehru had been a staunch supporter of free markets, he would not have been able to implement it in that environment. More likely, he would have been sidelined much like Patel was. I would not be so harsh as to put the blame for planning entirely on Nehru. The thinking of the entire country was geared towards planning.</p>
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