Comments on: The Long View of the Big Picture http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:17:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: worldisgreen http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141974 worldisgreen Mon, 18 May 2009 03:47:23 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141974 Atanu: I admire your long view but it is a disappointing election. None of the major issues mattered. Even terrorism like what happened in Bombay did not stop the congress. Even in my state of AP, congress is back. Another round of 10,000 crore corruption from YSR. Suhit Atanu:

I admire your long view but it is a disappointing election.

None of the major issues mattered. Even terrorism like what happened in Bombay did not stop the congress.

Even in my state of AP, congress is back. Another round of 10,000 crore corruption from YSR.

Suhit

]]> By: lostparadise http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141958 lostparadise Sun, 17 May 2009 18:50:26 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141958 Atanu, I share your optimism. India has endured attacks/invasion that affected her geographical borders, intellectual/philosophical, social life. I am sure that this time too she will. What hurts me the most is that every person/institution that has the maximum damage to our nation has went unpunished. Many of them actually are portrayed as deities. That is how our kids learn in school that Mughal's made this country rich. We owe our independence to congress and Nehru. Atanu,

I share your optimism. India has endured attacks/invasion that affected her geographical borders, intellectual/philosophical, social life. I am sure that this time too she will.

What hurts me the most is that every person/institution that has the maximum damage to our nation has went unpunished. Many of them actually are portrayed as deities.

That is how our kids learn in school that Mughal’s made this country rich. We owe our independence to congress and Nehru.

]]> By: Asheesh http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141957 Asheesh Sun, 17 May 2009 18:17:01 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141957 @ Pankaj In the short run it may not seem that NDA would have given us better govt., but for the long run to move the country into the right direction it is necessary that the long chain of Congress mis-rule is broken. Only if the strangle hold of Congress is broken is there any hope for the country's future. @ Pankaj

In the short run it may not seem that NDA would have given us better govt., but for the long run to move the country into the right direction it is necessary that the long chain of Congress mis-rule is broken. Only if the strangle hold of Congress is broken is there any hope for the country’s future.

]]> By: pankaj http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141955 pankaj Sun, 17 May 2009 16:42:22 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141955 vivesh congress won only because of MNS party if u see the figures of shiv sena and mns then both added up would have defeated congress but that was not the case,hence the results.btw the biggest loser in maharastra was NCP. vivesh congress won only because of MNS party if u see the figures of shiv sena and mns then both added up would have defeated congress but that was not the case,hence the results.btw the biggest loser in maharastra was NCP.

]]> By: viveksh http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141954 viveksh Sun, 17 May 2009 16:05:52 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141954 I didn't understand how Congress won all seats in Mumbai? Wasn't there clear disgust (rightly so) on the incompetence of both state and national governments with regard to the Mumbai attacks? I didn’t understand how Congress won all seats in Mumbai?

Wasn’t there clear disgust (rightly so) on the incompetence of both state and national governments with regard to the Mumbai attacks?

]]> By: rohit_indian http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141951 rohit_indian Sun, 17 May 2009 06:19:45 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141951 Somewhat related but still tangent thought. Should we be not coming under one hood and then fight for our rights with government ? When in school , during history lessons I used to get so much upset after reading stories about 1857 fights. Savarkar called it First Freedom fight. But we lost it. What makes me think more is if we could have win that battle against British we would have won 90 years earlier !!!. That's such a long time.. And one of the major reasons of defeat was it was not well organized at national level. We have many small fights with British but it was by no mean combined effort not the co-ordinated one. So we lost it. All the public awareness and other social NGO programmes seem to be failing at this aspect in my opinion. They all fight with Government but the effort is not co-ordinated and I am afraid its going to be much like 1857. And It would take us very long time to have combined effort. What do yo guys think that we can do to concentrate the efforts and fight all at once ? Somewhat related but still tangent thought. Should we be not coming under one hood and then fight for our rights with government ? When in school , during history lessons I used to get so much upset after reading stories about 1857 fights. Savarkar called it First Freedom fight. But we lost it. What makes me think more is if we could have win that battle against British we would have won 90 years earlier !!!. That’s such a long time.. And one of the major reasons of defeat was it was not well organized at national level. We have many small fights with British but it was by no mean combined effort not the co-ordinated one. So we lost it. All the public awareness and other social NGO programmes seem to be failing at this aspect in my opinion. They all fight with Government but the effort is not co-ordinated and I am afraid its going to be much like 1857. And It would take us very long time to have combined effort. What do yo guys think that we can do to concentrate the efforts and fight all at once ?

]]> By: pankaj http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141950 pankaj Sun, 17 May 2009 06:15:28 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141950 Again In all fairness it would be wrong to think that NDA or third front would have given us better governance.Ultimately the good old proverb people get the govt they deserve in democracy holds true. Again In all fairness it would be wrong to think that NDA or third front would have given us better governance.Ultimately the good old proverb people get the govt they deserve in democracy holds true.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » India Votes for No Change: Indian Bloggers & Twitter Users React to #IndiaVotes09 Results http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141948 Global Voices Online » India Votes for No Change: Indian Bloggers & Twitter Users React to #IndiaVotes09 Results Sun, 17 May 2009 03:57:20 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141948 [...] says that the Indian electorate has voted for stability but chosen the wrong national party. Atanu Dey believes that the election results are a setback for India's development. BJP supporter Brajesh [...] [...] says that the Indian electorate has voted for stability but chosen the wrong national party. Atanu Dey believes that the election results are a setback for India's development. BJP supporter Brajesh [...]

]]> By: India Votes for No Change: Indian Bloggers & Twitter Users React to #IndiaVotes09 Results | Gauravonomics Blog http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141947 India Votes for No Change: Indian Bloggers & Twitter Users React to #IndiaVotes09 Results | Gauravonomics Blog Sun, 17 May 2009 03:54:51 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141947 [...] says that the Indian electorate has voted for stability but chosen the wrong national party. Atanu Dey believes that the election results are a setback for India’s development. BJP supporter [...] [...] says that the Indian electorate has voted for stability but chosen the wrong national party. Atanu Dey believes that the election results are a setback for India’s development. BJP supporter [...]

]]> By: prankois.gultier http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141946 prankois.gultier Sun, 17 May 2009 02:39:20 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141946 Atanu, I read this article several times already.. Still, I am pessimistic about our future.. As your friend said a country gets the government it deserves. What about us? What about our kids who I feel deserve a better country and better rulers? Now I am a father and a bleak future stares at my baby.. 5 more years of (possible) mis-governance.. :-( I used to argue with the likes of Asheesh above. Now I have to agree with them.. Atanu,

I read this article several times already..

Still, I am pessimistic about our future.. As your friend said a country gets the government it deserves.

What about us? What about our kids who I feel deserve a better country and better rulers?

Now I am a father and a bleak future stares at my baby..

5 more years of (possible) mis-governance.. :-(

I used to argue with the likes of Asheesh above. Now I have to agree with them..

]]> By: Asheesh http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141930 Asheesh Sat, 16 May 2009 17:51:33 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141930 Atanu, I salute your optimism. I am however not so sure about the fundamentals especially of our democracy - 1. Democracy - half of our voters a dis-enfranchised, the candidates are crooks who are imposed upon the voters by self-serving cretins. 2. Judiciary - Broken. Average citizen has no means of getting justice against powerful corporations or the Govt. of India 3. Media - Completely biased, with no initiative to investigate important issues other than probably Indian Express I sincerely hope I am wrong and your view holds true. Atanu,

I salute your optimism. I am however not so sure about the fundamentals especially of our democracy -

1. Democracy – half of our voters a dis-enfranchised, the candidates are crooks who are imposed upon the voters by self-serving cretins.

2. Judiciary – Broken. Average citizen has no means of getting justice against powerful corporations or the Govt. of India

3. Media – Completely biased, with no initiative to investigate important issues other than probably Indian Express

I sincerely hope I am wrong and your view holds true.

]]> By: pankaj http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141920 pankaj Sat, 16 May 2009 14:19:53 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141920 what elections? only overall 40 % of electorate exercised their voting rights.India is a bogus democracy one american on tv had said that, he had told that other than elections there are no others things india has to show about democracy. what elections? only overall 40 % of electorate exercised their voting rights.India is a bogus democracy one american on tv had said that, he had told that other than elections there are no others things india has to show about democracy.

]]> By: kaunteya http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141919 kaunteya Sat, 16 May 2009 14:05:32 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141919 i am so not proud to be indian today. disguting! i am so not proud to be indian today.
disguting!

]]> By: anup http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141917 anup Sat, 16 May 2009 11:43:24 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141917 As a spiritual philosophy, the Vedas say 'to each his own' as per his capability of understanding the Truth. So, this verdict is the Truth as per the common man. Nevermind the fact that the Truth as per them hurts themselves more than anyone else. I will be first one to admit this shifting goalpost regarding critiquing vs. accepting the explicit choice by the Indian voters ; but nonetheless, this is the tyranny of majority!!! As a spiritual philosophy, the Vedas say ‘to each his own’ as per his capability of understanding the Truth. So, this verdict is the Truth as per the common man. Nevermind the fact that the Truth as per them hurts themselves more than anyone else.

I will be first one to admit this shifting goalpost regarding critiquing vs. accepting the explicit choice by the Indian voters ; but nonetheless, this is the tyranny of majority!!!

]]> By: Srini http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141916 Srini Sat, 16 May 2009 11:07:02 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141916 Thanks Atanu, for a consoling post at a despairing moment. Thanks Atanu, for a consoling post at a despairing moment.

]]> By: wanderer http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141914 wanderer Sat, 16 May 2009 11:03:55 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141914 The shock of 2004 was evidently not enough. The BJP needed this wake-up call. But the future holds promise. The shock of 2004 was evidently not enough. The BJP needed this wake-up call. But the future holds promise.

]]> By: AG http://www.deeshaa.org/2009/05/16/the-long-view-of-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-141913 AG Sat, 16 May 2009 10:26:27 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/?p=2309#comment-141913 Yes We live to fight another day -- the dream may have been eclipsed for now, but it endures. Yes

We live to fight another day — the dream may have been eclipsed for now, but it endures.

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