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	<title>Comments on: Goldman Sachs&#8217; 10-point Reform Package for India</title>
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		<title>By: Atanu Dey</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/06/22/goldman-sachs-10-point-reform-package-for-india/comment-page-1/#comment-126410</link>
		<dc:creator>Atanu Dey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding your point #2, Niket, perhaps my wording is unclear. I do not believe that there should be subsidies for &quot;renewable energy&quot; across the board for consumers. Whatever subsidies (or taxes) have to be imposed must depend on the positive (or negative) externalities. 

What you point out -- that consumer subsidies tilt the playing field -- is well and good but that is not what I was referring to. I was just saying that R&amp;D has to be subsidized. There&#039;s a distinction.

Regarding your point #3, you ask &quot;Why dismantle the government education system?&quot; 

Quite right. One does not have to dismantle the government education system. However, India is a poor country. Can it afford to waste resources on a system that has never performed and is unlikely to perform ever? The opportunity cost of the public spending is immense. 

Only the rich can afford to do things wastefully. But if one thinks about it, a rich person is someone who was not wasteful in the past, while a poor person is someone who wastes resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding your point #2, Niket, perhaps my wording is unclear. I do not believe that there should be subsidies for &#8220;renewable energy&#8221; across the board for consumers. Whatever subsidies (or taxes) have to be imposed must depend on the positive (or negative) externalities. </p>
<p>What you point out &#8212; that consumer subsidies tilt the playing field &#8212; is well and good but that is not what I was referring to. I was just saying that R&#038;D has to be subsidized. There&#8217;s a distinction.</p>
<p>Regarding your point #3, you ask &#8220;Why dismantle the government education system?&#8221; </p>
<p>Quite right. One does not have to dismantle the government education system. However, India is a poor country. Can it afford to waste resources on a system that has never performed and is unlikely to perform ever? The opportunity cost of the public spending is immense. </p>
<p>Only the rich can afford to do things wastefully. But if one thinks about it, a rich person is someone who was not wasteful in the past, while a poor person is someone who wastes resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Godwin&#8217;s Law: An example</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godwin&#8217;s Law: An example</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Having grown up in the age of the USENET, I am intimately familiar with Godwin&#8217;s Law. &#8220;As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.&#8221; The corollary to which has always been that whoever equates his opponent in a debate to Hitler or the Nazi, he has admitted that he has lost the argument. The thread or discussion has to be considered closed.  Recently, I saw an instance of such a premature end to a discussion. I had written a post on the GS report. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Having grown up in the age of the USENET, I am intimately familiar with Godwin&#8217;s Law. &#8220;As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.&#8221; The corollary to which has always been that whoever equates his opponent in a debate to Hitler or the Nazi, he has admitted that he has lost the argument. The thread or discussion has to be considered closed.  Recently, I saw an instance of such a premature end to a discussion. I had written a post on the GS report. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nkaisare</title>
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		<dc:creator>nkaisare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. &lt;i&gt;Constitutional reform to reduce the size of the government&lt;/i&gt;
No arguments about this. I think this is a desirable objective. 

2. &lt;i&gt;Funding for R&amp;D in the energy sector. [...] tax incentives for firms to invest in renewable energy.&lt;/i&gt;
I am not a student of economics, but energy systems is my research interest. I have come to believe that tax incentives or subsidies tilt the playing field in favour of certain technologies for reasons other than purely technical and economic. The latter are really the way to guide us to the right technology.

Several tech companies in Bay Area went solar to meet some of their energy needs. This comes at a high capital cost, which are anyway accounted for while computing taxes owed. The operation costs are much lower. Why would one need additional tax incentives?

How are tax incentives significantly different than the plan for subsidising corn-based ethanol (which, I think, is a disastrous idea).

3. &lt;i&gt;Dismantle the government education system and liberalize the sector.&lt;/i&gt;
Why dismantle government education system? Liberalise education sector: sure. Let government system compete on their merits with private operators. UCB is a public university, isn&#039;t it?

It should be mentioned that unlike the west, private Indian universities tend to be for-profit enterprises. While a lot of us like to point to the fact that UCB is the only public university in top five and that there are equal number of public and private universities in the top-ranked US research universities, what we fail to note is none of these universities are for-profit enterprises and that a majority of research funding still comes from tax payers money.
 
4. &lt;i&gt;Create an independent authority that will create a private-sector long-distance transportation network based on steel-wheels on steel-rails.&lt;/i&gt;
Most of the successful railway networks in the world are public. You don&#039;t intend Indian Railways (with all its faults) to go the way of Amtrak, do you?

5. &lt;i&gt;Last and not the least: fix the legal system.&lt;/i&gt;
This should be point #1 in your list. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. <i>Constitutional reform to reduce the size of the government</i><br />
No arguments about this. I think this is a desirable objective. </p>
<p>2. <i>Funding for R&amp;D in the energy sector. [...] tax incentives for firms to invest in renewable energy.</i><br />
I am not a student of economics, but energy systems is my research interest. I have come to believe that tax incentives or subsidies tilt the playing field in favour of certain technologies for reasons other than purely technical and economic. The latter are really the way to guide us to the right technology.</p>
<p>Several tech companies in Bay Area went solar to meet some of their energy needs. This comes at a high capital cost, which are anyway accounted for while computing taxes owed. The operation costs are much lower. Why would one need additional tax incentives?</p>
<p>How are tax incentives significantly different than the plan for subsidising corn-based ethanol (which, I think, is a disastrous idea).</p>
<p>3. <i>Dismantle the government education system and liberalize the sector.</i><br />
Why dismantle government education system? Liberalise education sector: sure. Let government system compete on their merits with private operators. UCB is a public university, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>It should be mentioned that unlike the west, private Indian universities tend to be for-profit enterprises. While a lot of us like to point to the fact that UCB is the only public university in top five and that there are equal number of public and private universities in the top-ranked US research universities, what we fail to note is none of these universities are for-profit enterprises and that a majority of research funding still comes from tax payers money.</p>
<p>4. <i>Create an independent authority that will create a private-sector long-distance transportation network based on steel-wheels on steel-rails.</i><br />
Most of the successful railway networks in the world are public. You don&#8217;t intend Indian Railways (with all its faults) to go the way of Amtrak, do you?</p>
<p>5. <i>Last and not the least: fix the legal system.</i><br />
This should be point #1 in your list. <img src='http://www.deeshaa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AGWorld</title>
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		<dc:creator>AGWorld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We seem to have very similar five point programs -- alas, we&#039;re just a bunch of armchair types!

http://chanakya2006.blogspot.com/2007/09/prime-ministers-independence-day.html
http://chanakya2006.blogspot.com/2007/08/prime-ministers-independence-day_24.html
http://chanakya2006.blogspot.com/2007/08/prime-ministers-independence-day.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We seem to have very similar five point programs &#8212; alas, we&#8217;re just a bunch of armchair types!</p>
<p><a href="http://chanakya2006.blogspot.com/2007/09/prime-ministers-independence-day.html" rel="nofollow">http://chanakya2006.blogspot.com/2007/09/prime-ministers-independence-day.html</a><br />
<a href="http://chanakya2006.blogspot.com/2007/08/prime-ministers-independence-day_24.html" rel="nofollow">http://chanakya2006.blogspot.com/2007/08/prime-ministers-independence-day_24.html</a><br />
<a href="http://chanakya2006.blogspot.com/2007/08/prime-ministers-independence-day.html" rel="nofollow">http://chanakya2006.blogspot.com/2007/08/prime-ministers-independence-day.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: tarang_72</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarang_72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always laugh at the reports of so called talking heads. Last year, many of the so called analysts could not predict what is coming towards them in the form of &quot;sub-prime&quot; crisis; no one predicted that oil would trade at $130 something a barrel; and they want to write about India after 40 years.

Again, i would like to refer to the book:  &quot;Confessions of an Economic Hit Man&quot; by John Perkins. He has mentioend in couple of chapter how he used to project about growth and since there is no other rationale to oppose it, soon it becomes the de facto truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always laugh at the reports of so called talking heads. Last year, many of the so called analysts could not predict what is coming towards them in the form of &#8220;sub-prime&#8221; crisis; no one predicted that oil would trade at $130 something a barrel; and they want to write about India after 40 years.</p>
<p>Again, i would like to refer to the book:  &#8220;Confessions of an Economic Hit Man&#8221; by John Perkins. He has mentioend in couple of chapter how he used to project about growth and since there is no other rationale to oppose it, soon it becomes the de facto truth.</p>
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