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		<title>By: a2z_iima</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/02/29/finnish-kids-finish-first/comment-page-1/#comment-115046</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Most students are learning what they need to score the highest marks in that semester.&quot; By asish 

I am post graduate of one of the so called premier managemet institue and my personal experience says the same psychology is being carried there also.  more on the subject, 10-15% are too good for the system next 30-40% device ways to beat the system, ranging from past test papers to dumping regualr work on group mates while they mug fpor tests.  the rest just can&#039;t digest the injustice nor can keep their moral conscious away and just drop out of aprticipating in the  system. 

I always wonders what happens when the same become leaders in organisation. can they overconme their anxiety levels to beat the system and think beyond???

but my little experiment with start a school also shows the problem is not really the kids but the environment around, where 90% marks are just not enough....I also can say there is a realisation, atleast arents of my school...that marginal value of education from 70% to 90% is very little and there are other aspects of life......not necessarily quizzing, general awareness...not necessarily creaivity and analytical ability.....but beyond that.

cheers


cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Most students are learning what they need to score the highest marks in that semester.&#8221; By asish </p>
<p>I am post graduate of one of the so called premier managemet institue and my personal experience says the same psychology is being carried there also.  more on the subject, 10-15% are too good for the system next 30-40% device ways to beat the system, ranging from past test papers to dumping regualr work on group mates while they mug fpor tests.  the rest just can&#8217;t digest the injustice nor can keep their moral conscious away and just drop out of aprticipating in the  system. </p>
<p>I always wonders what happens when the same become leaders in organisation. can they overconme their anxiety levels to beat the system and think beyond???</p>
<p>but my little experiment with start a school also shows the problem is not really the kids but the environment around, where 90% marks are just not enough&#8230;.I also can say there is a realisation, atleast arents of my school&#8230;that marginal value of education from 70% to 90% is very little and there are other aspects of life&#8230;&#8230;not necessarily quizzing, general awareness&#8230;not necessarily creaivity and analytical ability&#8230;..but beyond that.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: pankaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>pankaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no doubt our education is the worst,but can we indians have the luxury of having 10 students per class,do we have the inquisitive nature.and finally are we a society that respects being different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no doubt our education is the worst,but can we indians have the luxury of having 10 students per class,do we have the inquisitive nature.and finally are we a society that respects being different.</p>
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		<title>By: BytePro</title>
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		<dc:creator>BytePro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;If there is one reason to despair for the future, it is that we are saddled with an educational system that we are powerless to alter.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

So very well put. We know the goal, and are frustrated that the paths to it are blocked by vested interests very efficiently :(. But then, a sick prey hides from the hunter to be invisible long enough while the treatment changes from being palliative to health restorative.

Any &quot;treatment&quot; attempted presently invariably implies extra time, and is more palliative than restorative! The rigid &quot;only 24 hours a day, no more no less&quot; rule of Nature is a tough constraint :(. However ironic it may seem, it appears that investing the extra time today to reduce the time tomorrow is the only visible way out! Treating the sick education system today will need an immediate palliative approach. That itself does not seem to be available to the scale needed, and the hunter is secure that the numbers don&#039;t add up, and it&#039;s prey &quot;feels&quot; free. &quot;Animal Farm&quot; is the work of a genius ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>If there is one reason to despair for the future, it is that we are saddled with an educational system that we are powerless to alter.</b></i></p>
<p>So very well put. We know the goal, and are frustrated that the paths to it are blocked by vested interests very efficiently <img src='http://www.deeshaa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> . But then, a sick prey hides from the hunter to be invisible long enough while the treatment changes from being palliative to health restorative.</p>
<p>Any &#8220;treatment&#8221; attempted presently invariably implies extra time, and is more palliative than restorative! The rigid &#8220;only 24 hours a day, no more no less&#8221; rule of Nature is a tough constraint <img src='http://www.deeshaa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> . However ironic it may seem, it appears that investing the extra time today to reduce the time tomorrow is the only visible way out! Treating the sick education system today will need an immediate palliative approach. That itself does not seem to be available to the scale needed, and the hunter is secure that the numbers don&#8217;t add up, and it&#8217;s prey &#8220;feels&#8221; free. &#8220;Animal Farm&#8221; is the work of a genius <img src='http://www.deeshaa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: ashujo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashujo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on. I believe that as long as we sacrifice primary education and keep on pandering to higher education, we will always  fall far behind the standard of excellence. But what can we do? It is in politicians&#039; interest to award degrees, not to actually educate. Their motto is, &quot;We will give you degrees, but not knowledge, because giving you knowledge will inform you about how inefficient and venal we are&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on. I believe that as long as we sacrifice primary education and keep on pandering to higher education, we will always  fall far behind the standard of excellence. But what can we do? It is in politicians&#8217; interest to award degrees, not to actually educate. Their motto is, &#8220;We will give you degrees, but not knowledge, because giving you knowledge will inform you about how inefficient and venal we are&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: idlinginc</title>
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		<dc:creator>idlinginc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Education and Bureaucracy are two things created by the British to help them steal (or transfer resources) efficiently. Education helped them created dumb slaves with some useless paperwork skills to work on the bureaucratic ladder. The sooner we get rid of these two systems, the better. First education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Education and Bureaucracy are two things created by the British to help them steal (or transfer resources) efficiently. Education helped them created dumb slaves with some useless paperwork skills to work on the bureaucratic ladder. The sooner we get rid of these two systems, the better. First education.</p>
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		<title>By: Asheesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asheesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atanu,

You are Bang on Target! ( I think I will stop saying this anymore). The worst failur of Indian education system in my opinion is that it never lets kids explore possibilities outside of a very narrow field. 

What is frightning is this trend of narrow mindedness is creeping up into colleges as well. I know from my interactions with recent grads that most engineering institutes have become extensions of High Schools. Most students are learning what they need to score the highest marks in that semester. There is no sense of interests to be pursued. No one consults books outside of where the questions come from. I think it is high time there is a overhaul of this wretched system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu,</p>
<p>You are Bang on Target! ( I think I will stop saying this anymore). The worst failur of Indian education system in my opinion is that it never lets kids explore possibilities outside of a very narrow field. </p>
<p>What is frightning is this trend of narrow mindedness is creeping up into colleges as well. I know from my interactions with recent grads that most engineering institutes have become extensions of High Schools. Most students are learning what they need to score the highest marks in that semester. There is no sense of interests to be pursued. No one consults books outside of where the questions come from. I think it is high time there is a overhaul of this wretched system.</p>
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		<title>By: Failings of the Indian Education System &#124; DesiPundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Failings of the Indian Education System &#124; DesiPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is looking eastward for reforming its education system, Atanu Dey is bang on target in pointing out the failings of the Indian education system. If you know Atanu well, you&#8217;ll also know that he is doing something about it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is looking eastward for reforming its education system, Atanu Dey is bang on target in pointing out the failings of the Indian education system. If you know Atanu well, you&#8217;ll also know that he is doing something about it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: idlinginc</title>
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		<dc:creator>idlinginc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir Ken Robinson: Do schools kill creativity?

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66</a></p>
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