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		<title>By: vasudevan</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/02/28/ridiculing-religious-insanity/comment-page-1/#comment-115225</link>
		<dc:creator>vasudevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current congress party led by a lady under wraps has a lot of firsts to its credit including how to teach hindus the neo-hinduism. The lady in wraps also imports the Joshua planners in numbers unbelievable. Merchants of wholesale Christ trade, sold even at deep discounts and with goodies. Dhoti clad, turban clad croonies of madam fall and trip over each other to keep their dhotis and turbans out of the mafia clutch.Not surprisingly, the daughterof such a stooge writes new stories about Lord Ram (obviously rewarded in pillows of green backs.). Hindus protest the defecation and seculars cry hoarse! For once I am proud to be a Hindu. Even if it means...following the path of Aurangazeb!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current congress party led by a lady under wraps has a lot of firsts to its credit including how to teach hindus the neo-hinduism. The lady in wraps also imports the Joshua planners in numbers unbelievable. Merchants of wholesale Christ trade, sold even at deep discounts and with goodies. Dhoti clad, turban clad croonies of madam fall and trip over each other to keep their dhotis and turbans out of the mafia clutch.Not surprisingly, the daughterof such a stooge writes new stories about Lord Ram (obviously rewarded in pillows of green backs.). Hindus protest the defecation and seculars cry hoarse! For once I am proud to be a Hindu. Even if it means&#8230;following the path of Aurangazeb!</p>
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		<title>By: Notsure</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/02/28/ridiculing-religious-insanity/comment-page-1/#comment-115021</link>
		<dc:creator>Notsure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And dont forget Nalanda!, Qutubminar(a Jain Temple Complex), dozens of &quot;animist&quot; hill shrines.
didnt escape the damage either</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And dont forget Nalanda!, Qutubminar(a Jain Temple Complex), dozens of &#8220;animist&#8221; hill shrines.<br />
didnt escape the damage either</p>
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		<title>By: Notsure</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/02/28/ridiculing-religious-insanity/comment-page-1/#comment-115020</link>
		<dc:creator>Notsure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding One Mosque Demolished....
Nirad babu summed it up quitewell
&quot;...That what happened in
Ayodhya should not have happened is another matter. But I say that the Muslims
do not have the slightest right to complain about the desecration of one
mosque. From 1000 A.D. every Hindu temple from Kathiawar to Bihar, from the
Himalayas to the Vindhyas has been sacked and ruined. Not one temple was left
standing all over northern India&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding One Mosque Demolished&#8230;.<br />
Nirad babu summed it up quitewell<br />
&#8220;&#8230;That what happened in<br />
Ayodhya should not have happened is another matter. But I say that the Muslims<br />
do not have the slightest right to complain about the desecration of one<br />
mosque. From 1000 A.D. every Hindu temple from Kathiawar to Bihar, from the<br />
Himalayas to the Vindhyas has been sacked and ruined. Not one temple was left<br />
standing all over northern India&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Atanu Dey</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/02/28/ridiculing-religious-insanity/comment-page-1/#comment-114913</link>
		<dc:creator>Atanu Dey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please click on over to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/03/01/ridiculing-religious-insanity-part-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; the follow up post to this post&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please click on over to <a href="http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/03/01/ridiculing-religious-insanity-part-2/" rel="nofollow"> the follow up post to this post</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for your support.</p>
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		<title>By: Atanu Dey</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/02/28/ridiculing-religious-insanity/comment-page-1/#comment-114908</link>
		<dc:creator>Atanu Dey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alpana:

I will respond to your comment in a separate post later today. 

Prashant2:

I agree that well intentioned but poorly thought out positions cause harm to society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alpana:</p>
<p>I will respond to your comment in a separate post later today. </p>
<p>Prashant2:</p>
<p>I agree that well intentioned but poorly thought out positions cause harm to society.</p>
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		<title>By: Prashant2</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/02/28/ridiculing-religious-insanity/comment-page-1/#comment-114893</link>
		<dc:creator>Prashant2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atanu â€“ excellent reply to Alpanaâ€™s bleeding heart liberal points. Alpana, the same bleeding heart may bleed you to death because many fundamentalists have mastered their tact in dealing with such liberals. I have nothing against liberalism provided issues are properly thought out. Remember liberalism encompasses a broad outlook and in order to do justice one has to be excessively informed, intelligent and tactful to apply liberalism to solve problems. However if one is endowed with limited capacity or grasp of issues, liberalism can be subject to massive exploitation to the ultimate ruin of civil society.

Now coming to Alpanaâ€™s specific issue about the Delhi University Ramayan textbook controversy  I have read reports that Professor Saiyid Jafri, head of History Department at DU refused to cooperate with ABVP activists when the activists tried to set up a meeting with the authorities to discuss issues in a civil manner. While the ransacking of the campus by ABVP is deplorable but does it not beg the question as to why Prof. Jafri did not play an active role in diffusing tension and confrontation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu â€“ excellent reply to Alpanaâ€™s bleeding heart liberal points. Alpana, the same bleeding heart may bleed you to death because many fundamentalists have mastered their tact in dealing with such liberals. I have nothing against liberalism provided issues are properly thought out. Remember liberalism encompasses a broad outlook and in order to do justice one has to be excessively informed, intelligent and tactful to apply liberalism to solve problems. However if one is endowed with limited capacity or grasp of issues, liberalism can be subject to massive exploitation to the ultimate ruin of civil society.</p>
<p>Now coming to Alpanaâ€™s specific issue about the Delhi University Ramayan textbook controversy  I have read reports that Professor Saiyid Jafri, head of History Department at DU refused to cooperate with ABVP activists when the activists tried to set up a meeting with the authorities to discuss issues in a civil manner. While the ransacking of the campus by ABVP is deplorable but does it not beg the question as to why Prof. Jafri did not play an active role in diffusing tension and confrontation?</p>
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		<title>By: Alpana Sadya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alpana Sadya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Atanu for your response.  

If you cared to look at the link I provided you would have noticed that it is not about &quot;one mosque demolished&quot; but the vandalism the day before in Delhi University campus over paper on 300 Ramayanas. Funny, you think what happens in your own background is not of any importance rather what happens in Bangladesh or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia is.

In fighting against our enemies we become more and more like them. If you have any doubt, just browse through your blog dispassionately. Soon enough you will be able to see the face of some German intellectual who, blinded by their hatred of Jews thought that what was happening his own backyard was unimportant. Or may be some Pakistani think tank who thought that mullah-ism in their country was fine since it was directed against the other.

My only hope is that as long as such intellectuals remain restricted to personal blogging etc., they will not be in a position to do any serious damage to India. Given a free hand they can bring only civil wars, which they have done successfully in so many other countries. 

No offence intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Atanu for your response.  </p>
<p>If you cared to look at the link I provided you would have noticed that it is not about &#8220;one mosque demolished&#8221; but the vandalism the day before in Delhi University campus over paper on 300 Ramayanas. Funny, you think what happens in your own background is not of any importance rather what happens in Bangladesh or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia is.</p>
<p>In fighting against our enemies we become more and more like them. If you have any doubt, just browse through your blog dispassionately. Soon enough you will be able to see the face of some German intellectual who, blinded by their hatred of Jews thought that what was happening his own backyard was unimportant. Or may be some Pakistani think tank who thought that mullah-ism in their country was fine since it was directed against the other.</p>
<p>My only hope is that as long as such intellectuals remain restricted to personal blogging etc., they will not be in a position to do any serious damage to India. Given a free hand they can bring only civil wars, which they have done successfully in so many other countries. </p>
<p>No offence intended.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2008/02/28/ridiculing-religious-insanity/comment-page-1/#comment-114886</link>
		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post and excellent reply, Atanu. Your blog should be required reading for all JNU types and the semi-literate souls masquerading as journalists in the ELM in India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post and excellent reply, Atanu. Your blog should be required reading for all JNU types and the semi-literate souls masquerading as journalists in the ELM in India.</p>
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		<title>By: Atanu Dey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atanu Dey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alpana, it is called division of labor. You take on the responsibility of reporting on &quot;the goons of my favorite party&quot; (as you put it) and I will keep reporting on what the goons of your favorite party (religion) are doing.

 Deal?

Did it ever occur to you that you should really be thankful that India is indeed a Hindu majority country? Have you ever considered what it would have  been like for the minorities if the majority were not Hindus? 

Take your &quot;favorite countries&quot; -- Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, etc -- what does Islam have to say about the non-Muslims and what do the people of your favorite countries do? Here&#039;s a clue: they wipe out the minorities. 

I really should not be so impolite to a visitor to this blog but this has to be said. I think that your attempt at equating Islamic global terrorism with the idiocy of bunch of hooligans is stupid and lacks a sense of proportion and decency.

I don&#039;t know what motivates the self-loathing in you that compels you to come to the defense of Islamic terrorism by reducing it to a minor inconvenience. I can understand an illiterate Muslim from Saudi Arabia doing so. I can imagine the a Pakistani when told that Islam destroys temples whenever and whenever it can, responding that &quot;But didn&#039;t Hindus destroy the Babri Masjid?&quot; That one act of insanity committed by a bunch of thugs is now used as cover for hundreds of years of destruction of thousands of temples. 

Shame on you and your fellow travelers. India would not see so many dead from Islamic terrorism but for the cover that the likes of you provide. You are the &quot;moderate&quot; face that encourages the &quot;tiny minority of extremists&quot; to terrorize the world by trivializing their terrorism.

In this comment I name you and the message is specifically to you. But in general, there is a significant section of India which actually displays the same behavior and due to the same reason -- ignorance and illogic. This message is for them as well. India has paid a heavy price (and I don&#039;t mean just the jiziya) and will continue to pay for the generalized stupidity.  

It is all karma. We suffer the consequence of our actions that arise out of ignorance. That is the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alpana, it is called division of labor. You take on the responsibility of reporting on &#8220;the goons of my favorite party&#8221; (as you put it) and I will keep reporting on what the goons of your favorite party (religion) are doing.</p>
<p> Deal?</p>
<p>Did it ever occur to you that you should really be thankful that India is indeed a Hindu majority country? Have you ever considered what it would have  been like for the minorities if the majority were not Hindus? </p>
<p>Take your &#8220;favorite countries&#8221; &#8212; Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, etc &#8212; what does Islam have to say about the non-Muslims and what do the people of your favorite countries do? Here&#8217;s a clue: they wipe out the minorities. </p>
<p>I really should not be so impolite to a visitor to this blog but this has to be said. I think that your attempt at equating Islamic global terrorism with the idiocy of bunch of hooligans is stupid and lacks a sense of proportion and decency.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what motivates the self-loathing in you that compels you to come to the defense of Islamic terrorism by reducing it to a minor inconvenience. I can understand an illiterate Muslim from Saudi Arabia doing so. I can imagine the a Pakistani when told that Islam destroys temples whenever and whenever it can, responding that &#8220;But didn&#8217;t Hindus destroy the Babri Masjid?&#8221; That one act of insanity committed by a bunch of thugs is now used as cover for hundreds of years of destruction of thousands of temples. </p>
<p>Shame on you and your fellow travelers. India would not see so many dead from Islamic terrorism but for the cover that the likes of you provide. You are the &#8220;moderate&#8221; face that encourages the &#8220;tiny minority of extremists&#8221; to terrorize the world by trivializing their terrorism.</p>
<p>In this comment I name you and the message is specifically to you. But in general, there is a significant section of India which actually displays the same behavior and due to the same reason &#8212; ignorance and illogic. This message is for them as well. India has paid a heavy price (and I don&#8217;t mean just the jiziya) and will continue to pay for the generalized stupidity.  </p>
<p>It is all karma. We suffer the consequence of our actions that arise out of ignorance. That is the law.</p>
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		<title>By: ctrlalteredmind</title>
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		<dc:creator>ctrlalteredmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unnerving and exasperating at the same time, to watch instances and glimpses of such behavior that is entrenched in religious insanity (like the astronomy video you had written about, a few days back). Publicly ridiculing such fundamentalist ideas by drawing parallels to ridiculous anecdotes is a good start, but so far it has also worked in the favor of fundamentalist leaders. These despotic religious heads are successful in commandeering a number of insipid followers through instigating anecdotal examples.

Thank you for bringing our attention to Christopher Hitchens&#039; book. I&#039;m really looking forward to reading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unnerving and exasperating at the same time, to watch instances and glimpses of such behavior that is entrenched in religious insanity (like the astronomy video you had written about, a few days back). Publicly ridiculing such fundamentalist ideas by drawing parallels to ridiculous anecdotes is a good start, but so far it has also worked in the favor of fundamentalist leaders. These despotic religious heads are successful in commandeering a number of insipid followers through instigating anecdotal examples.</p>
<p>Thank you for bringing our attention to Christopher Hitchens&#8217; book. I&#8217;m really looking forward to reading it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alpana Sadya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alpana Sadya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with your article.  

However I find it very strange that you fail to find it offensive when the same thing happens in your own country esp. by the goons of your favourite party:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=7d8c5175-e085-44cf-8ee6-059ef5ce4192&amp;&amp;Headline=BJP+warns+of+protests+on+DU+textbook+issue

India is a Hindu majority country and our future will be mostly detrmined by how Hindus behave (or mis-behave).  Your concern against intellectual vandalism is laudable. The only thing is that it fails to carry any conviction because of your insistence that intellectual vandalism is harmful only when it comes from specific sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with your article.  </p>
<p>However I find it very strange that you fail to find it offensive when the same thing happens in your own country esp. by the goons of your favourite party:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=7d8c5175-e085-44cf-8ee6-059ef5ce4192&amp;&amp;Headline=BJP+warns+of+protests+on+DU+textbook+issue" rel="nofollow">http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=7d8c5175-e085-44cf-8ee6-059ef5ce4192&amp;&amp;Headline=BJP+warns+of+protests+on+DU+textbook+issue</a></p>
<p>India is a Hindu majority country and our future will be mostly detrmined by how Hindus behave (or mis-behave).  Your concern against intellectual vandalism is laudable. The only thing is that it fails to carry any conviction because of your insistence that intellectual vandalism is harmful only when it comes from specific sources.</p>
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		<title>By: chenchu0987</title>
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		<dc:creator>chenchu0987</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merely ridiculing beliefs is unlikely to work. These are not educated people that are being dealt with, but a mob living in the 7th century(there is a probability that they were more liberal before you-know-who arrived on the scene). Successive generations of appeasement and a pretense of morality on part of the non islamic world(especially the &quot;secular Indian governments&quot;) has convinced them that others are weak and can be subjugated.
 This is going affect only the Hindus. The christians will have no hesitation in doing the needful once the situation gets out of hand, the Chinese with their sagacious leaders nipped the problem in the bud, but there is almost nothing Hindus can do to save their way of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merely ridiculing beliefs is unlikely to work. These are not educated people that are being dealt with, but a mob living in the 7th century(there is a probability that they were more liberal before you-know-who arrived on the scene). Successive generations of appeasement and a pretense of morality on part of the non islamic world(especially the &#8220;secular Indian governments&#8221;) has convinced them that others are weak and can be subjugated.<br />
 This is going affect only the Hindus. The christians will have no hesitation in doing the needful once the situation gets out of hand, the Chinese with their sagacious leaders nipped the problem in the bud, but there is almost nothing Hindus can do to save their way of life.</p>
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