There Must be Violence Against Women
Despite such [Quranic] instructions, beating is considered a type of violence, according to human rights organizations, which urge women to complain to the police. I just wonder what kind of families our societies would have if Muslim women started doing this regarding their husbands.
Relationships between fathers and daughters or sisters and brothers also provoke argument from human rights organizations, which propose the suggested solutions for all relationships. Personally, I don’t think fathers or brothers would undertake such behavior unless there was a reason for it.
The above quote is from here.
There are always good reasons for violence against women. Take for example, the case of 16-year old Aqsa Parvez in Canada, strangled by her father last month because she refused to wear the hijab. Or the case of the Egyptian taxi-driver in Texas who shot and killed his two teenage daughters on Jan 1st because they were seeing non-Muslim guys.
Human rights? Oh come on, human rights have nothing to do with it as women are sub-humans anyway. OK, subhuman rights activists could get into it but human rights activists have no business in these matters.
Related to the above:
A 57-year-old Oak Forest man set a fire that killed his pregnant daughter, her husband and the couple’s 3-year-old son because he was angry that the son-in-law came from a “lower caste system” and had not asked for the daughter’s hand in marriage, prosecutors said Tuesday.
In a hearing at the Markham courthouse Tuesday morning, Subhash Chander was ordered held without bond by Cook County Judge Martin McDonough in connection with the arson and murder of Chander’s pregnant daughter Monika Rani, 22; her husband Rajesh Kumar, 30; and their son Vansh. [Source.]
Human rights organizations and ngos do more harm reminding me of the story you had narrated once:
Someone wanting to “save” fish from drowning hung them up the trees.
To give just one example , many are now talking about the ethics behind “surrogate mothers”. For years lots of women rounded up and ‘ looked after’ in remand homes etc have had mass hysterectomies performed on them as the compassionate do gooders find it too cumbersome dealing with menstruating women.
Violence among and between humans is the most common. Women are the worst enemies of women. Micro managing of minds and lives, granting economic freedom which is in reality economic subservience….violence is hydra headed. As the saying goes the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
The only priceless blessing conferred on by suffering and pain is irrevocable wisdom. Hence Draupadi tells Lord Krishna:
” Despite having five husbands , my heart actually yearns for You “
Vaidehi
Dont know what the hell are you saying
especialy the bit about
“granting economic freedom which is in reality economic subservience”?
and PS
Knowing about Krishna, He would have satisfied her if she was his type.
She wasnt he didnt even want to see her naked.
His preference was hirsute like Jamwants daughter.
Duh? This post is unusually mixed up.
Are we talking about the fundamental issue of violence against women irrespective of any involvement of a third “we-intend-to-do-good” party? A hint at sarcasm comes up when “subhuman rights org” is identified as the “correct” agency to intervene.
Are we talking about religion, in particular Islam, overriding basic humane values? The quoted article does not offer any reasons to justify violence against women except some principles of Islamic society. Since religious ideologies are deaf to reason, an emotional sarcastic outburst is natural.
A number of ’separate’ questions are buried in this topic. For instance:
1. Use of violence in general.
2. Use of violence against women.
3. Ideological (religious as well as rational) frameworks for (and against) use of violence (in general, and against women in particular).
4. Islam as one such framework.
5. Casteism as another such framework.
6. Can a, and how should, a third party intervene in case of an incidence of violence?
What are you focusing on in this post?
Reading your post ‘ Peddling Pornography’ in tandem with the above brings to my mind the following:
Recall the torrid story of an exceptionally brilliant and good looking girl student of DPS who was ” caught in the act ” , so to speak by a richierich superbrat boy of the same school who was never ever her friend or lover to begin with.
It was only one newspaper ( of course ,The Pioneer) that had come out with the unvarnished truth. The boy simply could not add her to his list of ‘ conquests’ ; hence hatched upon a nefarious blackmailing plot to lure her to his private bedroom studded with all gizmos.
In that charade of court hearing the boy’s retinue of relatives fawned over him bemoaning how he was denied his daily quota of pizzas etc. Money power ( son of a rich industrialist) won. All the “slimes” (news channels & papers) pilloried the girl.
That girl ’s father is a retired Army Officer ( how well we honour them (( . She had her studies abruptly discontinued, lost her only genuine boyfriend and was shunted out to some distant relative’s house in a far off country.
The popular tv channels’ female reporters with unabashed prurience continued maligning her. The matronly imperious teachers and fellow girl students had done the houdini with a could-not-care-less nonchalance
Touche.
Apologies for digressing, but considering this is posted under rant, I don’t feel entirely obligated to stay on topic.
Atanu, you have on many occasions stressed the need for facilitating the urbanization of India, specifically the creation of a large number of cities with populations of ~1 million. I completely agree with you on this, however the methodical approach to urbanization you speak of will most likely never occur in India. Continued urbanization will more likely resemble the case of Bangalore: unintentional, uncoordinated, and born from a bug.
This leads me to why I’m being so rude right now. Mr. Tata is probably waxing his car right now, getting it all shiny for the expo . Most critics of the car say that India’s big cities such as Mumbahi are incapable of handling the volume of traffic this car will generate. Well yes, so what? The same can be said of Manhattan. These people fail to mention the impact this car may have on the rest of the country. The advent of the automobile and the “american car culture” had a tremendous impact on development of american cities. Other than the new SEZ policy, I can think of no other development which will encourage the creation of new cities within India.
I must say though that I don’t have a very good grasp of the average indian consumer’s mindset, when it comes to things such as shopping, dining, and vacationing. Who knows buying this car may be more of a status symbol for a family. What do you think? Am I being overly optimistic? Maybe its just my car culture acting up.
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