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		<title>By: Comment on Solar Power Investment â€” Followup by Amit &#124; Solar Powered Cars . Net</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/12/07/solar-power-investment-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-112720</link>
		<dc:creator>Comment on Solar Power Investment â€” Followup by Amit &#124; Solar Powered Cars . Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Also check out this movie (well, itâ€™s just a trailer for â€˜The Power of Communityâ€™) about Cuba and how they handled the fossil-fuel crisis. That should provide us with some ideas. Solar energy is a no-brainer, and if we hadnâ€™t been &#8230; Read More [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Also check out this movie (well, itâ€™s just a trailer for â€˜The Power of Communityâ€™) about Cuba and how they handled the fossil-fuel crisis. That should provide us with some ideas. Solar energy is a no-brainer, and if we hadnâ€™t been &#8230; Read More [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chaitanya</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/12/07/solar-power-investment-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-112682</link>
		<dc:creator>chaitanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atanu, Iam a little surprised by your endorsement of a A particular renewable energy source.

I wonder if a better market solution might be to raise the price of existing fuel, so that renewable energy turns out to be more competitive price wise, and stimulates private research into the best form of renewable energy for the country. Why zero-in on solar ? Let the market fight out between solar, wind, nuclear etc. By the way, solar energy is nothing but Sun&#039;s nuclear energy sent to us over millions of miles, so why not harness nuclear energy here itself ? It may have advantages or disadvantages, let the market fight it out.

Another disadvantage of spending lot of money on a particular source is, it doesn&#039;t do anything about conservation or creating efficiencies in the current system in the use of fossil fuels. A carbon tax, by raising the price of carbon, will stimulate conservation and efficiency. Forget carbon &quot;tax&quot; -- Heck, we are not even passing the full market price of fuel onto the consumers right now.

If we think that raising the price of fuel might adversely affect the economy, and raise inflationary pressures, then we should be prepared to do some heavy social engineering in terms of energy use. I would say tax the heck out of cars. I agree with you, 1 lakh car is no-no for India.  We cannot afford gas guzzler on the road. Tax the heck out of airline travel. Iam sure most people doing air travel today can afford a few more hours of relaxed travelling in a train. I know this is not a &quot;market&quot; solution, but when we are not ready to tax carbon broad based, we should be atleast ready to do some social engineering, and targeted steps at conservation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu, Iam a little surprised by your endorsement of a A particular renewable energy source.</p>
<p>I wonder if a better market solution might be to raise the price of existing fuel, so that renewable energy turns out to be more competitive price wise, and stimulates private research into the best form of renewable energy for the country. Why zero-in on solar ? Let the market fight out between solar, wind, nuclear etc. By the way, solar energy is nothing but Sun&#8217;s nuclear energy sent to us over millions of miles, so why not harness nuclear energy here itself ? It may have advantages or disadvantages, let the market fight it out.</p>
<p>Another disadvantage of spending lot of money on a particular source is, it doesn&#8217;t do anything about conservation or creating efficiencies in the current system in the use of fossil fuels. A carbon tax, by raising the price of carbon, will stimulate conservation and efficiency. Forget carbon &#8220;tax&#8221; &#8212; Heck, we are not even passing the full market price of fuel onto the consumers right now.</p>
<p>If we think that raising the price of fuel might adversely affect the economy, and raise inflationary pressures, then we should be prepared to do some heavy social engineering in terms of energy use. I would say tax the heck out of cars. I agree with you, 1 lakh car is no-no for India.  We cannot afford gas guzzler on the road. Tax the heck out of airline travel. Iam sure most people doing air travel today can afford a few more hours of relaxed travelling in a train. I know this is not a &#8220;market&#8221; solution, but when we are not ready to tax carbon broad based, we should be atleast ready to do some social engineering, and targeted steps at conservation.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/12/07/solar-power-investment-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-112678</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot: here&#039;s their website:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.powerofcommunity.org/cm/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.powerofcommunity.org/cm/index.php&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot: here&#8217;s their website:<br />
<a href="http://www.powerofcommunity.org/cm/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.powerofcommunity.org/cm/index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/12/07/solar-power-investment-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-112677</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atanu, good post, and finally, I can agree with you on some issue (your misguided/uncritical cheer-leading for GMOs notwithstanding) ;)  :)

It&#039;s really simple: we HAVE TO explore renewable energy resources sooner or later, given that oil and natural gas are finite, and have peaked. So, better sooner than later - that&#039;s the wiser way. Also check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2201729412913647672&amp;hl=en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this movie&lt;/a&gt; (well, it&#039;s just a trailer for &#039;The Power of Community&#039;) about Cuba and how they handled the fossil-fuel crisis. That should provide us with some ideas.

Solar energy is a no-brainer, and if we hadn&#039;t been addicted to oil for so long, and instead, had invested in renewable energy research when Carter installed solar panels on the White House in 1976, it&#039;s a slim possibility that Iraq war wouldn&#039;t have happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu, good post, and finally, I can agree with you on some issue (your misguided/uncritical cheer-leading for GMOs notwithstanding) <img src='http://www.deeshaa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.deeshaa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s really simple: we HAVE TO explore renewable energy resources sooner or later, given that oil and natural gas are finite, and have peaked. So, better sooner than later &#8211; that&#8217;s the wiser way. Also check out <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2201729412913647672&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow">this movie</a> (well, it&#8217;s just a trailer for &#8216;The Power of Community&#8217;) about Cuba and how they handled the fossil-fuel crisis. That should provide us with some ideas.</p>
<p>Solar energy is a no-brainer, and if we hadn&#8217;t been addicted to oil for so long, and instead, had invested in renewable energy research when Carter installed solar panels on the White House in 1976, it&#8217;s a slim possibility that Iraq war wouldn&#8217;t have happened.</p>
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		<title>By: nakul.jana</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/12/07/solar-power-investment-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-112628</link>
		<dc:creator>nakul.jana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOLAR power will be the ultinate source of power for mankind. our ancestors realised it long back and the ritual of SURJA PRANAM evolved before start of the day. there is too much research in the field in different developed countries and there is no need of spending money on its research in India which will be mere duplication. our govt can takeup a goal of solar energy utilization target and learn from other countries who have made development of solar power in recent past. One of the ways to develop this power and norish it is to introduce the  FEED IN TARIFF as has happened in other countries. little preferential feed in tariff of MNRE has done miracle in hydel and wind power developemt in India. But the same FIT is not helping in development of solar power as the cost of installation of solar power is much higher than the hydel or wind power. over the years the solar power cost will come down with development of new technology/ material and increase in volume of projects. but till that time say around 15 years we have to introduce FIT for solar power or we will miss the buss completely.
There is not much discussion for FIT for solar power in different forum and i will appreciate the topic should get wide attention resulting acceptance of the same by MNRE/ MOP/ GOI
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOLAR power will be the ultinate source of power for mankind. our ancestors realised it long back and the ritual of SURJA PRANAM evolved before start of the day. there is too much research in the field in different developed countries and there is no need of spending money on its research in India which will be mere duplication. our govt can takeup a goal of solar energy utilization target and learn from other countries who have made development of solar power in recent past. One of the ways to develop this power and norish it is to introduce the  FEED IN TARIFF as has happened in other countries. little preferential feed in tariff of MNRE has done miracle in hydel and wind power developemt in India. But the same FIT is not helping in development of solar power as the cost of installation of solar power is much higher than the hydel or wind power. over the years the solar power cost will come down with development of new technology/ material and increase in volume of projects. but till that time say around 15 years we have to introduce FIT for solar power or we will miss the buss completely.<br />
There is not much discussion for FIT for solar power in different forum and i will appreciate the topic should get wide attention resulting acceptance of the same by MNRE/ MOP/ GOI<br />
cell 094334 00655</p>
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		<title>By: Notsure</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/12/07/solar-power-investment-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-112614</link>
		<dc:creator>Notsure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its immaterial weather private agencies are doing R&amp;D and funding is coming from government.
The issues is that money is finite and where to put it for the most return.
Your recommended scales are well off the scales. 
Throwing huge amounts of money at a problem does not solve anything.
Saudi Arabia has thrown money into &quot;jumpstarting&quot;  defense and aviation with nothing to show for it.
Maruti Udyog project under the beloved gandu family scion was a similar  money sink in the 70&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its immaterial weather private agencies are doing R&amp;D and funding is coming from government.<br />
The issues is that money is finite and where to put it for the most return.<br />
Your recommended scales are well off the scales.<br />
Throwing huge amounts of money at a problem does not solve anything.<br />
Saudi Arabia has thrown money into &#8220;jumpstarting&#8221;  defense and aviation with nothing to show for it.<br />
Maruti Udyog project under the beloved gandu family scion was a similar  money sink in the 70&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rational Fool</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/12/07/solar-power-investment-followup/comment-page-1/#comment-112589</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rational Fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Research and innovation will not flourish in an atmosphere where every outcome is measured in terms of what collective good it serves or is supposed to serve. An efficient, incentive compatible, mechanism for allocating resources to best serve private motives and interests may not be impossible, but it must be invisible!

p.s. Atanu, I have linked to this post on my bog &lt;a href=&quot;http://therationalfool.blogspot.com/2007/12/national-solar-foundation.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and elaborated on my comment. I hope you don&#039;t mind. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Research and innovation will not flourish in an atmosphere where every outcome is measured in terms of what collective good it serves or is supposed to serve. An efficient, incentive compatible, mechanism for allocating resources to best serve private motives and interests may not be impossible, but it must be invisible!</p>
<p>p.s. Atanu, I have linked to this post on my bog <a href="http://therationalfool.blogspot.com/2007/12/national-solar-foundation.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and elaborated on my comment. I hope you don&#8217;t mind. Thanks.</p>
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