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		<title>By: Mo</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/07/19/i-heart-costco/comment-page-1/#comment-105457</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phew..I was waiting for Pavan to blame Wal-Mart for Katrina Hurricane, the Gujarat Earthquake and the Indonesian Tsunami.

Care to site some sources or studies about all those accusations?

By the way, I love Costco too, I bought my Lexus via their Auto Program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phew..I was waiting for Pavan to blame Wal-Mart for Katrina Hurricane, the Gujarat Earthquake and the Indonesian Tsunami.</p>
<p>Care to site some sources or studies about all those accusations?</p>
<p>By the way, I love Costco too, I bought my Lexus via their Auto Program.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 04:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we comparing WalMart retailers in America with random small shopholders in the land of corrupt regulators and worthless buerocracies again? I really don&#039;t see the parallel. 

Did I say WalMart was better than Indian store-owners? No. I said WalMart isn&#039;t good. Don&#039;t try to distract from the point with red herrings.

WalMart has become large enough in the USA to exercise monopsonist policies with regard to both its suppliers and it&#039;s employees as well as monopolistic policies with regards to its products. This is not healthy for an economy, it&#039;s every bit as bad a practice as India&#039;s state-sanctioned license Raj. The only reason the outcomes aren&#039;t as totally awful is because enough America&#039;s retail market is developed enough to be able to compete with WalMart on quality by moving up-market. But among low-income shoppers WalMart has the market on lock-down and simultaneously reduces the number of jobs in the city, increases traffic, and lowers property values because of the crime and pollution that they frequently bring behind them. 

It&#039;s not at all a poster-child for socially responsible business practice.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we comparing WalMart retailers in America with random small shopholders in the land of corrupt regulators and worthless buerocracies again? I really don&#8217;t see the parallel. </p>
<p>Did I say WalMart was better than Indian store-owners? No. I said WalMart isn&#8217;t good. Don&#8217;t try to distract from the point with red herrings.</p>
<p>WalMart has become large enough in the USA to exercise monopsonist policies with regard to both its suppliers and it&#8217;s employees as well as monopolistic policies with regards to its products. This is not healthy for an economy, it&#8217;s every bit as bad a practice as India&#8217;s state-sanctioned license Raj. The only reason the outcomes aren&#8217;t as totally awful is because enough America&#8217;s retail market is developed enough to be able to compete with WalMart on quality by moving up-market. But among low-income shoppers WalMart has the market on lock-down and simultaneously reduces the number of jobs in the city, increases traffic, and lowers property values because of the crime and pollution that they frequently bring behind them. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not at all a poster-child for socially responsible business practice.</p>
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		<title>By: dodo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;CostCo underpays their workers whist driving all other retailers in the area out of business through predatory pricing?&quot;

Pavan, please tell me ONE indian corner shop wallah, who decently pay his/her employees. I am asking for One only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CostCo underpays their workers whist driving all other retailers in the area out of business through predatory pricing?&#8221;</p>
<p>Pavan, please tell me ONE indian corner shop wallah, who decently pay his/her employees. I am asking for One only.</p>
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		<title>By: Ike</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/07/19/i-heart-costco/comment-page-1/#comment-105285</link>
		<dc:creator>Ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walmart gets a bad rap on the pay and insurance issues, but many of those studies are skewed by location.  Walmart is in a lot of smaller markets with lower costs of living, so the wages appear smaller than they are.

Nobody forces workers to take a job for less than prevailing wage.  With unemployment rates so low, the market really is working.

I don&#039;t want this to become a Walmart v. Costco thread, because we&#039;re really talking about two different cliente bases and corporate models.  Walmart generally benefits from economies of scale, state of the art inventory management, and vertical integration.  Costco plays more of a niche, with a much more limited inventory, and a  greater focus on customer experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walmart gets a bad rap on the pay and insurance issues, but many of those studies are skewed by location.  Walmart is in a lot of smaller markets with lower costs of living, so the wages appear smaller than they are.</p>
<p>Nobody forces workers to take a job for less than prevailing wage.  With unemployment rates so low, the market really is working.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want this to become a Walmart v. Costco thread, because we&#8217;re really talking about two different cliente bases and corporate models.  Walmart generally benefits from economies of scale, state of the art inventory management, and vertical integration.  Costco plays more of a niche, with a much more limited inventory, and a  greater focus on customer experience.</p>
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		<title>By: bongopondit</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/07/19/i-heart-costco/comment-page-1/#comment-105261</link>
		<dc:creator>bongopondit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Costco lover !! We joke that Costco is our &#039;weekly pilgrimage&#039;!


Btw, Costco return policy used to be one of the most generous. Although officially you were supposed to return stuff within a month, they always accepted returns with a smile even 4-5 months later, and with few questions asked. 

Unfortunately, too many customers began scamming the system by purchasing laptop computers, wide screen TVs etc and then return them after 2 years (yes true stories) for a new one. For a long time Costco put up with this - only recently have they put restrictions. Computer and electronic items now can returned only within the first month (Costco is still one of the few retailer that dont charge restocking fees for computers) - however they come with a 2year replacement warranty. This is still an extremely generous offer and Costco was almost apologetic while rolling out this policy. 

To me Costco defines a near-perfect customer service in the retail sector.  

Btw, Costco actually pays and looks after their employees pretty well with generous health insurance etc. Apparently they have a very low turn-over rate with their employees. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Costco lover !! We joke that Costco is our &#8216;weekly pilgrimage&#8217;!</p>
<p>Btw, Costco return policy used to be one of the most generous. Although officially you were supposed to return stuff within a month, they always accepted returns with a smile even 4-5 months later, and with few questions asked. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, too many customers began scamming the system by purchasing laptop computers, wide screen TVs etc and then return them after 2 years (yes true stories) for a new one. For a long time Costco put up with this &#8211; only recently have they put restrictions. Computer and electronic items now can returned only within the first month (Costco is still one of the few retailer that dont charge restocking fees for computers) &#8211; however they come with a 2year replacement warranty. This is still an extremely generous offer and Costco was almost apologetic while rolling out this policy. </p>
<p>To me Costco defines a near-perfect customer service in the retail sector.  </p>
<p>Btw, Costco actually pays and looks after their employees pretty well with generous health insurance etc. Apparently they have a very low turn-over rate with their employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Suhit Anantula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suhit Anantula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pavan:

You should check out this piece by Bryan Caplan on Predatory pricing.

http://cafehayek.typepad.com/hayek/2007/07/why-i-dont-fear.html

Cheers,
Suhit

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pavan:</p>
<p>You should check out this piece by Bryan Caplan on Predatory pricing.</p>
<p><a href="http://cafehayek.typepad.com/hayek/2007/07/why-i-dont-fear.html" rel="nofollow">http://cafehayek.typepad.com/hayek/2007/07/why-i-dont-fear.html</a></p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Suhit</p>
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		<title>By: Mayuresh Gaikwad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mayuresh Gaikwad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I am missing a point here, but I do not quite understand what under-paying means. If it means that I pay my employees less than the market rate, I guess they are free to quit and pursue other options. If they do not have other options, what I pay them is essentially the market rate. Probably the said under-payment refers to payment below the minimum labour charge (I think is USD 5/hr) and that would be illegal. However, in a market dictated by demand and supply of labour, the price should adjust itself, so there would essentially be no &quot;exploitation&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I am missing a point here, but I do not quite understand what under-paying means. If it means that I pay my employees less than the market rate, I guess they are free to quit and pursue other options. If they do not have other options, what I pay them is essentially the market rate. Probably the said under-payment refers to payment below the minimum labour charge (I think is USD 5/hr) and that would be illegal. However, in a market dictated by demand and supply of labour, the price should adjust itself, so there would essentially be no &#8220;exploitation&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Venkatesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkatesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ike,

People from US are not able to appreciate efficiency of discount stores like walmart/costco. It has it side effects but its efficiency is passed on to the customer , which is better than paying for that in-efficiency.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ike,</p>
<p>People from US are not able to appreciate efficiency of discount stores like walmart/costco. It has it side effects but its efficiency is passed on to the customer , which is better than paying for that in-efficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkatesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkatesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pavan,

I feel lot of Indians are blind till they come to the US. You notice &quot;under payment&quot; but don&#039;t notice child labor ?

Even if Costco underpays, most of the corner shop in India I know of exploit child labor with impunity. They don&#039;t pay sales tax, they don&#039;t report their income, they routinely do &quot;milavat&quot;. The list is just endless. Can you ever return a product you didn&#039;t like to any of the traditional shop keepers.

All in all, underpaying employer is better than and employer who is hiring child labour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pavan,</p>
<p>I feel lot of Indians are blind till they come to the US. You notice &#8220;under payment&#8221; but don&#8217;t notice child labor ?</p>
<p>Even if Costco underpays, most of the corner shop in India I know of exploit child labor with impunity. They don&#8217;t pay sales tax, they don&#8217;t report their income, they routinely do &#8220;milavat&#8221;. The list is just endless. Can you ever return a product you didn&#8217;t like to any of the traditional shop keepers.</p>
<p>All in all, underpaying employer is better than and employer who is hiring child labour.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavan</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/07/19/i-heart-costco/comment-page-1/#comment-105238</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œSamâ€™s Club is evil and wrong, even when they do the same things CostCo does.â€

CostCo underpays their workers whist driving all other retailers in the area out of business through predatory pricing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œSamâ€™s Club is evil and wrong, even when they do the same things CostCo does.â€</p>
<p>CostCo underpays their workers whist driving all other retailers in the area out of business through predatory pricing?</p>
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		<title>By: Ike</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/07/19/i-heart-costco/comment-page-1/#comment-105237</link>
		<dc:creator>Ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venkatesh - there are some estimates that Walmart alone saves &quot;poor&quot; American families some $200-billion a year in extra buying power.  (&quot;poor&quot; being a relative term, referring to those in the bottom quintile of income only.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venkatesh &#8211; there are some estimates that Walmart alone saves &#8220;poor&#8221; American families some $200-billion a year in extra buying power.  (&#8220;poor&#8221; being a relative term, referring to those in the bottom quintile of income only.)</p>
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		<title>By: Venkatesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkatesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Said.

When I discuss with my Indian friends about how it would be good to have a costco or Wallmart to come to India, they retort, what about the poor resellers ?

I have noticed how these &quot;poor resellers&quot; exploit the even poorer customers they have. How the small shop owners sell inferior product at jacked up prices or have exorbitant interest rates for credit at their stores.

The cost of in-efficiency of retail is always to be paid by the end customer and in country like India, its the poorest strata of society which gets affected the most. I don&#039;t think its even socialistic to support the in-efficiency and dishonesty of resellers. The don&#039;t add any value and only introduce in-efficiency.

Even in Rupee terms, shopping in Walmart is cheaper than shopping in a corner shop in India. The moniker &quot;Country of Shop-keepers&quot; has to be shed, because the shop-keeper adds absolutely no value to the society other than to himself. They are dishonest, they cheat and discriminate with impunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Said.</p>
<p>When I discuss with my Indian friends about how it would be good to have a costco or Wallmart to come to India, they retort, what about the poor resellers ?</p>
<p>I have noticed how these &#8220;poor resellers&#8221; exploit the even poorer customers they have. How the small shop owners sell inferior product at jacked up prices or have exorbitant interest rates for credit at their stores.</p>
<p>The cost of in-efficiency of retail is always to be paid by the end customer and in country like India, its the poorest strata of society which gets affected the most. I don&#8217;t think its even socialistic to support the in-efficiency and dishonesty of resellers. The don&#8217;t add any value and only introduce in-efficiency.</p>
<p>Even in Rupee terms, shopping in Walmart is cheaper than shopping in a corner shop in India. The moniker &#8220;Country of Shop-keepers&#8221; has to be shed, because the shop-keeper adds absolutely no value to the society other than to himself. They are dishonest, they cheat and discriminate with impunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Ike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, a great majority of Americans wouldn&#039;t understand what you are talking about.  They take their economic freedoms for granted, and don&#039;t see the unintended consequences of trying to improve things centrally.

(Also - be prepared for the bias to weigh in.  &quot;Sam&#039;s Club is evil and wrong, even when they do the same things CostCo does.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, a great majority of Americans wouldn&#8217;t understand what you are talking about.  They take their economic freedoms for granted, and don&#8217;t see the unintended consequences of trying to improve things centrally.</p>
<p>(Also &#8211; be prepared for the bias to weigh in.  &#8220;Sam&#8217;s Club is evil and wrong, even when they do the same things CostCo does.&#8221;)</p>
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