Comments on: Deluded Government http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:44:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gininly http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-104383 Gininly Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:17:47 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-104383 Good aftenoon ! Forgive that beside You was little ed! <a href="http://xanax-good.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">xanax</a> http://xanax-good.blogspot.com Good stuff, very nicely done. <a href="http://airline--tickets1.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">airline tickets</a> http://airline--tickets1.blogspot.com There was merrily! <a href="http://cialis-ok-1.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">cialis</a> http://cialis-ok-1.blogspot.com The Regard! The Excellent forum! Thank you! Good aftenoon !
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]]> By: Suhit Anantula http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-102768 Suhit Anantula Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:29:17 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-102768 Atanu: Rather late to comment. Australia is considering building a next generation broadband plan. The debate here is whether it should be public-private partnership; whether granted to the erstwhile public monopoly without a competitive bid or take a competitive bid from a Singapore telecom owned company leading the consortium. The only condition is that the rural parts of Australia (the bushland) should get their share. There are problems in the discussions here and mostly political; but it is atleast not talking about a free lunch. And I cannot believe how India can even consider providing a free broadband plan. The debate is without a hint of economics. About Singapore; it is totally different for a rich country to provide broadband for 3 million or so citizens. Cheers, Suhit Atanu:

Rather late to comment.

Australia is considering building a next generation broadband plan. The debate here is whether it should be public-private partnership; whether granted to the erstwhile public monopoly without a competitive bid or take a competitive bid from a Singapore telecom owned company leading the consortium.

The only condition is that the rural parts of Australia (the bushland) should get their share. There are problems in the discussions here and mostly political; but it is atleast not talking about a free lunch.

And I cannot believe how India can even consider providing a free broadband plan. The debate is without a hint of economics.

About Singapore; it is totally different for a rich country to provide broadband for 3 million or so citizens.

Cheers,
Suhit

]]> By: Broadband for all:Bah! at Broadband Blog http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-99108 Broadband for all:Bah! at Broadband Blog Wed, 02 May 2007 16:37:46 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-99108 [...] ws, Indian Telecom, Broadband in India Aptly titled “deluded government” by Atanu Dey, this is the “new initiative” planned by [...] [...] ws, Indian Telecom, Broadband in India Aptly titled “deluded government” by Atanu Dey, this is the “new initiative” planned by [...]

]]> By: anonymous http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-99068 anonymous Tue, 01 May 2007 19:36:36 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-99068 Unfortunately, the “free” stuff – “air” that too came out as a result of “quantum fluctuation” is soon going to be not free. That is when we are going to make this planet a truly commercial place, thanks to the visionary capitalists out there. -Mike My Dear Mike, You must be grateful not just thankful to those who'd supplying air for you for a price, otherwise you'd die miserably. But the hard to hide fact is that governments around the world are the reason for the air to get polluted. Joe Capitalist Unfortunately, the “free” stuff – “air” that too came out as a result of “quantum fluctuation” is soon going to be not free.

That is when we are going to make this planet a truly commercial place, thanks to the visionary capitalists out there.

-Mike

My Dear Mike,

You must be grateful not just thankful to those who’d supplying air for you for a price, otherwise you’d die miserably. But the hard to hide fact is that governments around the world are the reason for the air to get polluted.

Joe Capitalist

]]> By: Michael http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-99046 Michael Tue, 01 May 2007 11:58:10 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-99046 Unfortunately, the "free" stuff - "air" that too came out as a result of "quantum fluctuation" is soon going to be not free. That is when we are going to make this planet a truly commercial place, thanks to the visionary capitalists out there. -Mike Unfortunately, the “free” stuff – “air” that too came out as a result of “quantum fluctuation” is soon going to be not free.

That is when we are going to make this planet a truly commercial place, thanks to the visionary capitalists out there.

-Mike

]]> By: Apun Ka Desh http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-99031 Apun Ka Desh Tue, 01 May 2007 05:55:12 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-99031 Let the Jokers who are running Administration, provide free Primary Education and Food first... There are a zillion companies dying to provide broadband for throw away prices...by 2009 there will be more. Let the Jokers who are running Administration, provide free Primary Education and Food first… There are a zillion companies dying to provide broadband for throw away prices…by 2009 there will be more.

]]> By: Ankur http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-99009 Ankur Tue, 01 May 2007 00:22:48 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-99009 Internet is already very cheap like you can get unlimitied broadband in rs. 500 per month. and in 2009 prices are going to fall more . so dont think its a big issue . Internet is already very cheap like you can get unlimitied broadband in rs. 500 per month. and in 2009 prices are going to fall more . so dont think its a big issue .

]]> By: Guru Gulab Khatri http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-99001 Guru Gulab Khatri Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:47:15 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-99001 Well If i recall correctly the indian governments 5yr plans have had sheikhchilliyan Plans for availability of X KWH per indian per year as well as declaring Telephone a necesity and it was only the aadhi-gand deregulation that let cellular phones in (which were categorized as an luxury) The government needs a big overhaul More decentralization for every aspect except defense and environment and they can get rid of rajya sabha (a piss poor cargo cult emulation of house of lords which was itself a piss poor emulation of US senate) Well If i recall correctly the indian governments 5yr plans have had sheikhchilliyan
Plans for availability of X KWH per indian per year as well as
declaring Telephone a necesity and it was only the aadhi-gand deregulation that let cellular phones in (which were categorized as an luxury)
The government needs a big overhaul
More decentralization for every aspect except defense and environment
and they can get rid of rajya sabha (a piss poor cargo cult emulation of house of lords which was itself a piss poor emulation of US senate)

]]> By: Krishnan http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-98936 Krishnan Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:41:18 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-98936 The real cost of 1GB broadband bandwidth is about $0.18 (Rs 8). Even if the Government were to provide 1GB free to everyone who owns a PC and a BSNL phone line, it will work out to (30 million PC's x Rs8) = 24 crore rupees per month.Not that huge an amount and it might be money better spent than the countless amount that goes down the drain otherwise. It is mostly the salaried class (who value education) who buys PC's.This might be the case of Peter (who pays taxes and gets nothing in return) actually getting something. Agreed, the money could have been better spent on primary education etc. But that needs good administrative/governance systems which India lacks at the moment. The real motive perhaps is to keep BSNL going. People are returning landlines in droves and it is facing stiff competition from private mobile players. So the real cost of providing broadband may not be just 24 crore rupees but the cost of all the BSNL salaries and this is an indirect tax on Indian citizens. So the real problem is that the Government wants to keep failing public sector industries at the cost of the taxpayer. But this has been a problem for many years and is unlikely to go away soon. The real cost of 1GB broadband bandwidth is about $0.18 (Rs 8). Even if the Government were to provide 1GB free to everyone who owns a PC and a BSNL phone line, it will work out to (30 million PC’s x Rs8) = 24 crore rupees per month.Not that huge an amount and it might be money better spent than the countless amount that goes down the drain otherwise.

It is mostly the salaried class (who value education) who buys PC’s.This might be the case of Peter (who pays taxes and gets nothing in return) actually getting something.

Agreed, the money could have been better spent on primary education etc. But that needs good administrative/governance systems which India lacks at the moment.

The real motive perhaps is to keep BSNL going. People are returning landlines in droves and it is facing stiff competition from private mobile players. So the real cost of providing broadband may not be just 24 crore rupees but the cost of all the BSNL salaries and this is an indirect tax on Indian citizens. So the real problem is that the Government wants to keep failing public sector industries at the cost of the taxpayer. But this has been a problem for many years and is unlikely to go away soon.

]]> By: Abhijit http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-98922 Abhijit Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:40:02 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-98922 Nice article, there is only one dis-agreement though- by definition government is "supposed to do nothing!! If it does that job fine, it is a good government". I think, there's pretty interesting stuff out here to read, would be a regular visitor!! Nice article, there is only one dis-agreement though- by definition government is “supposed to do nothing!! If it does that job fine, it is a good government”. I think, there’s pretty interesting stuff out here to read, would be a regular visitor!!

]]> By: india - » Adoption in India http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-98909 india - » Adoption in India Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:53:55 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-98909 [...] adoption in india… Deluded GovernmentBack to our free broadband for everyone in India by 2009. If you t [...] [...]

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]]> By: as http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-98898 as Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:24:59 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-98898 I'd like to add that the 2mb free broadband initiative might or might not take off as 2009 is election year and a policy such will depend on how the winds blow at such time. Second, the 2mb free broadband will have limits of a few GB(at the moment 2GB is what is being said.) I’d like to add that the 2mb free broadband initiative might or might not take off as 2009 is election year and a policy such will depend on how the winds blow at such time. Second, the 2mb free broadband will have limits of a few GB(at the moment 2GB is what is being said.)

]]> By: Guru Gulab Khatri http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-98873 Guru Gulab Khatri Sat, 28 Apr 2007 07:14:22 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-98873 How does it contrast with your singapore's broadband idolation How does it contrast with your singapore’s broadband idolation

]]> By: Pankaj Narula http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/comment-page-1/#comment-98871 Pankaj Narula Sat, 28 Apr 2007 07:06:56 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/28/deluded-government/#comment-98871 Atanu I am up for bidding on that rusty colored piece of junk :D At what price is the bid starting? - Pankaj Atanu

I am up for bidding on that rusty colored piece of junk :D At what price is the bid starting?

- Pankaj

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