Comments on: Land Development http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:41:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Anand http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/comment-page-1/#comment-97174 Anand Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:17:23 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/#comment-97174 Yep, have to agree with the fact that there are increasing number of examples of the type Kumar has given above. Another case in point is the town of Bidadi, on Mysore Road about 25 km from Bangalore. This is not exactly rural, in the sense that Toyota and Coca Cola are already present and have been around for some years there now. It also helps that Bidadi is located bang on the swanky 4-lane road connecting Mysore and Bangalore, and is also connected by rail. Still, a large part of the economy right there is based on agriculture. And we can see there the beginnings of growth and development based on services industry mushrooming there, including entertainment. There is already the Wonder La water theme park (one of the biggest in the country), and the Eagleton golf course and a bunch of resorts, trekking spots etc in the area. The Innovative guys are also coming up with a development there which consists of a Film City, a bunch of theme restaurants and a series of high end retail stores. Of course there are talks of a Knowledge Park coming up in the area as well, and one might well see the IT/ITES guys expanding in that area. So yep, it's happening - being led by a few players who got together to get stuff started, and the rest are following suit. Yep, have to agree with the fact that there are increasing number of examples of the type Kumar has given above. Another case in point is the town of Bidadi, on Mysore Road about 25 km from Bangalore. This is not exactly rural, in the sense that Toyota and Coca Cola are already present and have been around for some years there now. It also helps that Bidadi is located bang on the swanky 4-lane road connecting Mysore and Bangalore, and is also connected by rail. Still, a large part of the economy right there is based on agriculture.

And we can see there the beginnings of growth and development based on services industry mushrooming there, including entertainment. There is already the Wonder La water theme park (one of the biggest in the country), and the Eagleton golf course and a bunch of resorts, trekking spots etc in the area. The Innovative guys are also coming up with a development there which consists of a Film City, a bunch of theme restaurants and a series of high end retail stores. Of course there are talks of a Knowledge Park coming up in the area as well, and one might well see the IT/ITES guys expanding in that area. So yep, it’s happening – being led by a few players who got together to get stuff started, and the rest are following suit.

]]> By: » by: Kumar N http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/comment-page-1/#comment-97107 » by: Kumar N Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:14:06 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/#comment-97107 [...] by: Kumar N Posted in Uncategorized by on the April 9th, 2007 David Taylor wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptW [...] [...]

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David Taylor wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptW [...]

]]> By: Gaurav http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/comment-page-1/#comment-97102 Gaurav Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:06:55 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/#comment-97102 Soumen, 7 for rhetoric, 0 for substance. Soumen,

7 for rhetoric, 0 for substance.

]]> By: Gaurav http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/comment-page-1/#comment-97101 Gaurav Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:05:36 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/#comment-97101 Shiv, "The problem begins right here. Obviously the “developer” will want land close to current population centers" I dont see any problem with that "that are more likely than not to be agricultural." Again I dont see any problem with that "Remember Nandigram ?" Nandigram to best of my knowledge has to do with "forcible" acquisition of land by "state". Now I am at loss to understand how that particular incident ties with this post. I especially find your quoting Nandigram amusing since you are fond of state intervention.In mood for self goals. Shiv,

“The problem begins right here. Obviously the “developer” will want land close to current population centers”

I dont see any problem with that

“that are more likely than not to be agricultural.”

Again I dont see any problem with that

“Remember Nandigram ?”

Nandigram to best of my knowledge has to do with “forcible” acquisition of land by “state”. Now I am at loss to understand how that particular incident ties with this post.

I especially find your quoting Nandigram amusing since you are fond of state intervention.In mood for self goals.

]]> By: Kumar N http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/comment-page-1/#comment-97092 Kumar N Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:09:37 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/#comment-97092 Dear All, Instead of a comment, I want to share a true story: Ibrahimpatnam used to be a sleepy little mandal headquarters some 35 km from Hyderabad,India. At first, there was a residential school and college, 3 km from this small town.And then, a private engineering college came up. In the next 5 years, 4 more engineering colleges came up in the vicinity. The residential school is owned by a trust, and is located on a huge tract of farm land - around 300 acres.The school with student hostels, classrooms, staff quarters, play grounds, open air and indoor theaters, occupies around 70 acres of land. The rest of the land is farmed by locals, the produce feeds the entire campus, and the surplus is sold in the nearby market. Recently, Reliance Fresh approached the trust, to buy part of the land, to setup their warehouses including cold storage facilities. They want to use the facility to serve their stores in the twin cities of Hyderabad and Secunderabad. The establishment of the school, and the engineering colleges, started the growth process in Ibrahimpatnam and its surroundings. But the moment Reliance started its operations, it has acted as a catalyst, and within the last one year, there has been amazing growth in the overall modernization of Ibrahimpatnam.Right from a cellular tower, to proliferation of shops and hotels, clinics and internet connectivity, the town is fast becoming a nice area to live. What the educational institutions started, got accelerated by Reliance Fresh - the anchor customer for the area (providing well-paying jobs to around 2000 people). Locals can get a job near their homes and are seeing good money for the first time. Some thing similar, on a much larger scale has happened in Guttala Begumpet-Madhapur-Kondapur areas on the outskirts of Hyderabad between 1997-2003. In a span of 5-6 years, these sleepy hamlets got transformed into Cyberabad. A similar transformation is likely to happen in Maheswaram mandal (Hyderabad) and Devanahalli (Bangalore) when the proposed international airports come up by 2009. The lessons are obvious.Development happens when jobs get created. And jobs get created when business ventures are set up using cheap land available an hour's drive from any major city. And when the model matures across the country, the maximum distance between one city and another won't be more than one hour of journey by road/rail. We need to understand how such development has taken place, and replicate the same wherever feasible. Nandigram is more a case of ineffective communication and an implementation method that was people unfriendly. Dear All,

Instead of a comment, I want to share a true story:

Ibrahimpatnam used to be a sleepy little mandal headquarters some 35 km from Hyderabad,India.

At first, there was a residential school and college, 3 km from this small town.And then, a private engineering college came up. In the next 5 years, 4 more engineering colleges came up in the vicinity.

The residential school is owned by a trust, and is located on a huge tract of farm land – around 300 acres.The school with student hostels, classrooms, staff quarters, play grounds, open air and indoor theaters, occupies around 70 acres of land. The rest of the land is farmed by locals, the produce feeds the entire campus, and the surplus is sold in the nearby market.

Recently, Reliance Fresh approached the trust, to buy part of the land, to setup their warehouses including cold storage facilities. They want to use the facility to serve their stores in the twin cities of Hyderabad and Secunderabad.

The establishment of the school, and the engineering colleges, started the growth process in Ibrahimpatnam and its surroundings. But the moment Reliance started its operations, it has acted as a catalyst, and within the last one year, there has been amazing growth in the overall modernization of Ibrahimpatnam.Right from a cellular tower, to proliferation of shops and hotels, clinics and internet connectivity, the town is fast becoming a nice area to live.

What the educational institutions started, got accelerated by Reliance Fresh – the anchor customer for the area (providing well-paying jobs to around 2000 people). Locals can get a job near their homes and are seeing good money for the first time.

Some thing similar, on a much larger scale has happened in Guttala Begumpet-Madhapur-Kondapur areas on the outskirts of Hyderabad between 1997-2003. In a span of 5-6 years, these sleepy hamlets got transformed into Cyberabad. A similar transformation is likely to happen in Maheswaram mandal (Hyderabad) and Devanahalli (Bangalore) when the proposed international airports come up by 2009.

The lessons are obvious.Development happens when jobs get created. And jobs get created when business ventures are set up using cheap land available an hour’s drive from any major city. And when the model matures across the country, the maximum distance between one city and another won’t be more than one hour of journey by road/rail.

We need to understand how such development has taken place, and replicate the same wherever feasible. Nandigram is more a case of ineffective communication and an implementation method that was people unfriendly.

]]> By: shiv http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/comment-page-1/#comment-97087 shiv Mon, 09 Apr 2007 08:44:29 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/#comment-97087 "First, acquire a sufficiently large piece of cheap land." The problem begins right here. Obviously the "developer" will want land close to current population centers that are more likely than not to be agricultural. Cheap is always relative.Remember <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandigram" rel="nofollow">Nandigram</a> ? “First, acquire a sufficiently large piece of cheap land.”

The problem begins right here. Obviously the “developer” will want land close to current population centers that are more likely than not to be agricultural. Cheap is always relative.Remember Nandigram ?

]]> By: Soumen Chakrabarti http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/comment-page-1/#comment-97045 Soumen Chakrabarti Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:55:35 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2007/04/08/cities_6/#comment-97045 With peak oil in our rear-view mirrors, the mall model is doomed. Some like Jim Kunstler blare this non-stop until even believers get sick and tired, but it's all true. Indians would be very dumb to try to follow the mall model, factory-farms with 2% of the population into agriculture, etc., but it won't be surprising at all if they do. Those that the gods would destroy they first curse with excessive fecundity and resulting foul water, air and food, so they cannot see they are obviously hurtling toward a cliff. With peak oil in our rear-view mirrors, the mall model is doomed. Some like Jim Kunstler blare this non-stop until even believers get sick and tired, but it’s all true. Indians would be very dumb to try to follow the mall model, factory-farms with 2% of the population into agriculture, etc., but it won’t be surprising at all if they do. Those that the gods would destroy they first curse with excessive fecundity and resulting foul water, air and food, so they cannot see they are obviously hurtling toward a cliff.

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