Comments on: Thundering Airlines http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:53:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: In Chennai for a CSR Event http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-127344 In Chennai for a CSR Event Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:55:36 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-127344 [...] I was back in Chennai and it was only 10 days since my last visit. That time I was with the Australian delegation on a flight from Delhi. We were flying the airlines formerly known as “Indian Airlines” and soon enough will be known as Air India but in the meanwhile they have spent millions in renaming it to just “Indian”. S.E.B. [...] [...] I was back in Chennai and it was only 10 days since my last visit. That time I was with the Australian delegation on a flight from Delhi. We were flying the airlines formerly known as “Indian Airlines” and soon enough will be known as Air India but in the meanwhile they have spent millions in renaming it to just “Indian”. S.E.B. [...]

]]> By: A Time To Reflect » Blog Archive » Logo change and rebranding http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-104549 A Time To Reflect » Blog Archive » Logo change and rebranding Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:38:43 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-104549 [...] ay - but it is difficult to say for sure. read this scathing long-ago post by Atanu on the thundering airlines. The inscrutable logo Indian is just one of them - the brand logo / [...] [...] ay – but it is difficult to say for sure. read this scathing long-ago post by Atanu on the thundering airlines. The inscrutable logo Indian is just one of them – the brand logo / [...]

]]> By: SHYAMAL KANTI DAS http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-99107 SHYAMAL KANTI DAS Wed, 02 May 2007 15:52:38 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-99107 You have written it in a lucidway. But will Civil Aviation Ministry, Government of India will read and take action for rectification ? I doubt. No matters. We can spend any amount with stupidity but not in the interest of our country. Decision making people will not listen to you. I would be happy if Minister of Civil aviation decides and take action appropriately. You have written it in a lucidway. But will Civil Aviation Ministry, Government of India will read and take action for rectification ? I doubt.
No matters. We can spend any amount with stupidity but not in the interest of our country.
Decision making people will not listen to you.
I would be happy if Minister of Civil aviation decides and take action appropriately.

]]> By: Atanu Dey on India’s Development » Air Indian — Part Duh http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-96300 Atanu Dey on India’s Development » Air Indian — Part Duh Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:08:33 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-96300 [...] ole exercise will be repeated when the name is changed yet once more. Time to revisit that piece. Like I say, India is not poor for nothing. It takes concerted cumulative stupidit [...] [...] ole exercise will be repeated when the name is changed yet once more. Time to revisit that piece. Like I say, India is not poor for nothing. It takes concerted cumulative stupidit [...]

]]> By: Atanu Dey on India’s Development » Air Indian http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-90933 Atanu Dey on India’s Development » Air Indian Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:08:01 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-90933 [...] ’t comprehend the thrill that comes from spending tax-payer money on a whim. Such as changing the name from Indian Airlines to Indian and then repainting the entire fleet of 7 [...] [...] ’t comprehend the thrill that comes from spending tax-payer money on a whim. Such as changing the name from Indian Airlines to Indian and then repainting the entire fleet of 7 [...]

]]> By: Krish http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-66873 Krish Sat, 13 Jan 2007 08:16:26 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-66873 So what is the big deal? Most municipal corporations pay contractors the equivalent of millions of dollars each year to resurface the roads damaged by rains. As if designed such, they become potholed in exactly one year, and this cycle repeats. So what is the big deal? Most municipal corporations pay contractors the equivalent of millions of dollars each year to resurface the roads damaged by rains. As if designed such, they become potholed in exactly one year, and this cycle repeats.

]]> By: Atanu Dey on India’s Development » Innovation and Entrepreneurship at XIMB http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-65866 Atanu Dey on India’s Development » Innovation and Entrepreneurship at XIMB Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:46:51 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-65866 [...] irline to “Indian” from “Indian Airlines.” As I have pondered that change of name before on this blog, I will move on. I only mention this because yesterday [...] [...] irline to “Indian” from “Indian Airlines.” As I have pondered that change of name before on this blog, I will move on. I only mention this because yesterday [...]

]]> By: Filmiholic http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-26056 Filmiholic Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:10:25 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-26056 And given what a crappy airline they were already, I can imagine they had piles of money sitting around unused. Never mind painting the outside of the plane, they should spiff up the interiors and get the poor crews a fresh change of clothes. I flew them a few years ago to Colombo, and wow, how awful compared to Sri Lankan Airlines. The carpet was puckering up off the floor (imagine the stew tripping while carrying a pot of hot tea) and the entire crew looked like they had slept in their uniforms. By comparison to IA (sorry, "I"), Sri Lankan Airlines was the picture of shiny new efficiency, from the uniforms to the planes to the attitude (most important). I suppose it didn't hurt that the whole fleet had just been replaced by parent company Emirates after the LTTE airport attack.... And given what a crappy airline they were already, I can imagine they had piles of money sitting around unused.

Never mind painting the outside of the plane, they should spiff up the interiors and get the poor crews a fresh change of clothes. I flew them a few years ago to Colombo, and wow, how awful compared to Sri Lankan Airlines. The carpet was puckering up off the floor (imagine the stew tripping while carrying a pot of hot tea) and the entire crew looked like they had slept in their uniforms.

By comparison to IA (sorry, “I”), Sri Lankan Airlines was the picture of shiny new efficiency, from the uniforms to the planes to the attitude (most important). I suppose it didn’t hurt that the whole fleet had just been replaced by parent company Emirates after the LTTE airport attack….

]]> By: Ashish http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-24468 Ashish Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:30:09 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-24468 Wow! Nice post - loved the way you described it. :-) Wow! Nice post – loved the way you described it.

:-)

]]> By: Soumya http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-24421 Soumya Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:25:12 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-24421 Hi Atanu , I like the logic of your "conspiray theory"..... big money get changes hands but the tax payers are getting the brunt of it. Truly as u say there is no accountability . Anyway enjoy Kolkata , Subho Bijoya !!! Hi Atanu ,

I like the logic of your “conspiray theory”….. big money get changes hands but the tax payers are getting the brunt of it. Truly as u say there is no accountability .
Anyway enjoy Kolkata , Subho Bijoya !!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-24306 Anonymous Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:28:10 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-24306 I wanted to comment on the first part of your post. The miracle of commercial transportation is indeed taken for granted, and so is its increasing environmental impact. And the irony is airlines is the only industry that gets away burning high octane fule TAX FREE. I was hoping to read your views on this aspect of the 'Thundering Airlines', instead of rant on a stupid name change. I wanted to comment on the first part of your post. The miracle of commercial transportation is indeed taken for granted, and so is its increasing environmental impact. And the irony is airlines is the only industry that gets away burning high octane fule TAX FREE. I was hoping to read your views on this aspect of the ‘Thundering Airlines’, instead of rant on a stupid name change.

]]> By: Hemk http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-24259 Hemk Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:50:17 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-24259 Maybe one of you in India can file a RTI petition about the Indian airlines balance sheet. Is that published every year? The bigger question (that you touched upon Atanu in your eloquent rant) is: - What's the best way to make these govt. organizations efficient? * Study their balance sheets at the end of the year? * Publish reports on the worst 100 on the list? I think a progressive TV station (NDTV?) or a non-profit should take up the reins? Thoughts? Its obvious that privatisation is the most efficient way of improving organizations, but in India we know how hard that is. Maybe one of you in India can file a RTI petition about the Indian airlines balance sheet. Is that published every year?

The bigger question (that you touched upon Atanu in your eloquent rant) is:

- What’s the best way to make these govt. organizations efficient?
* Study their balance sheets at the end of the year?
* Publish reports on the worst 100 on the list?

I think a progressive TV station (NDTV?) or a non-profit should take up the reins?

Thoughts?

Its obvious that privatisation is the most efficient way of improving organizations, but in India we know how hard that is.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » India: Indian - The Airlines http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-24243 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » India: Indian - The Airlines Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:04:55 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-24243 [...] @ 13:09 EDT South Asia General, India, Business Global Roundups Atanu Dey on the renaming of Indian Airlines as ‘Indian’ - “But removing [...] [...] @ 13:09 EDT South Asia General, India, Business Global Roundups Atanu Dey on the renaming of Indian Airlines as ‘Indian’ – “But removing [...]

]]> By: Veneeta http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-24168 Veneeta Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:57:23 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-24168 Hi Antanu, Well said, but whose there to hear? We all vent our frustrations in different ways and you did with this lovely rant. Unfortunately we discuss and the matter passes and we have to continue paying our taxes happily. Interesting read though. Cheers! and enjoy the city of Rosogullas! Hi Antanu,

Well said, but whose there to hear? We all vent our frustrations in different ways and you did with this lovely rant. Unfortunately we discuss and the matter passes and we have to continue paying our taxes happily.
Interesting read though.
Cheers! and enjoy the city of Rosogullas!

]]> By: Jayant N http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-24110 Jayant N Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:21:10 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-24110 Atanu and other readers, Greetings from Seoul, Korea. Take solace in the simple fact that the total idiocy / incompetence of the Indian Govt. is a blessing in disguise. If the b#ggers were more effective they'd do far more "serious" damage! Have a nice time in Kolkata - formally known as Calcutta! Atanu and other readers,
Greetings from Seoul, Korea.
Take solace in the simple fact that the total idiocy / incompetence of the Indian Govt. is a blessing in disguise. If the b#ggers were more effective they’d do far more “serious” damage!
Have a nice time in Kolkata – formally known as Calcutta!

]]> By: mishti http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-24040 mishti Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:49:42 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-24040 Well said. and this folly (or calculated spending of public money) gets resorted to every few years. Madhav Rao Scindia had changed the logo of Air India from the centaur to some rising sun and had paid a few million dollars to a public relations firm (US based) for the new logo, only to revert abck to the old one in a few months time (twice painting all the aircrafts, offices etc. etc.). Well said. and this folly (or calculated spending of public money) gets resorted to every few years. Madhav Rao Scindia had changed the logo of Air India from the centaur to some rising sun and had paid a few million dollars to a public relations firm (US based) for the new logo, only to revert abck to the old one in a few months time (twice painting all the aircrafts, offices etc. etc.).

]]> By: S Jagadish http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-24029 S Jagadish Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:04:04 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/10/19/thundering-airlines/#comment-24029 Atanu Nice rant. I wrote about this whole rebranding exercise in a slightly different context - the <a href="http://jagadish.blogspot.com/2005/12/indian-team-sponsor-rights-awarded.html" rel="nofollow">sponsorship rights by the BCCI</a> late last year after the renaming. Atanu

Nice rant. I wrote about this whole rebranding exercise in a slightly different context – the sponsorship rights by the BCCI late last year after the renaming.

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