Comments on: “Free” Energy? Not Really — Part 3 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/08/28/612/ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:33:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: rama http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/08/28/612/comment-page-1/#comment-20029 rama Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:01:23 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/08/28/612/#comment-20029 Hullo! As a student of economics and former teacher of the subject, and a social planner, I was very happy to discover this blog. Perhaps you've written about this before, but I was really aggravated reading the report in today's Telegraph (Calcutta) about Wipro asking for a cheaper rate for getting land in West Bengal. http://telegraphindia.com/1060829/asp/bengal/story_6671361.asp Free market??!! Best, rama Hullo! As a student of economics and former teacher of the subject, and a social planner, I was very happy to discover this blog.

Perhaps you’ve written about this before, but I was really aggravated reading the report in today’s Telegraph (Calcutta) about Wipro asking for a cheaper rate for getting land in West Bengal.

http://telegraphindia.com/1060829/asp/bengal/story_6671361.asp

Free market??!!

Best,
rama

]]> By: Niket http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/08/28/612/comment-page-1/#comment-20015 Niket Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:15:11 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/08/28/612/#comment-20015 Some commentators here have gotten it wrong. Free energy, in this context, implies that one gets more than what one puts in: a violation of the first law of thermodynamics, a.k.a. "energy can neither be created nor distroyed". It doesn't matter if the magnets required are huge; even if you can put in 100 KW of energy and get out 100.00000000001 KW, you still get free energy (and it IS a big deal). Sun and planets are not examples of free energy or perpetual motion machines. The sun is continuously "burning" its fuel, hydrogen. Implications of what these guys are claiming is huge. The manner in which they chose to come out with their claim rings quite a few alarm bells. Related: <a href="http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i21/21b02001.htm" rel="nofollow">The Seven Warning Signs of Bogus Science</a> Some commentators here have gotten it wrong. Free energy, in this context, implies that one gets more than what one puts in: a violation of the first law of thermodynamics, a.k.a. “energy can neither be created nor distroyed”. It doesn’t matter if the magnets required are huge; even if you can put in 100 KW of energy and get out 100.00000000001 KW, you still get free energy (and it IS a big deal).

Sun and planets are not examples of free energy or perpetual motion machines. The sun is continuously “burning” its fuel, hydrogen. Implications of what these guys are claiming is huge. The manner in which they chose to come out with their claim rings quite a few alarm bells.

Related: The Seven Warning Signs of Bogus Science

]]> By: Krishi http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/08/28/612/comment-page-1/#comment-20006 Krishi Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:43:38 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/08/28/612/#comment-20006 Free energy is the Holy Grail of.... well, almost everything. But, I think most of the energy research is being funnelled into the wrong channels, chasing sources that are materially replenishable. For ex : these would need magnetic fields, which need materials that generate magnetic fields etc. Anytime moving parts come in, the logic of perpetual motion is lost. The best way, I would argue the only way, is to find a source that is not materially replenishable, but naturally and automatically replenishable. The only true perpetual motions that we know to exist are of the planets around the Sun, and of the Moon around the Sun. Obviously, we can't replicate the scale of that experiment, but, we can do it on a smaller scale. I am not a physics expert, but even to my untrained eye, I think there is potential here. I will try to formulate them in a post on my blog shortly. Free energy is the Holy Grail of…. well, almost everything.

But, I think most of the energy research is being funnelled into the wrong channels, chasing sources that are materially replenishable. For ex : these would need magnetic fields, which need materials that generate magnetic fields etc. Anytime moving parts come in, the logic of perpetual motion is lost.

The best way, I would argue the only way, is to find a source that is not materially replenishable, but naturally and automatically replenishable. The only true perpetual motions that we know to exist are of the planets around the Sun, and of the Moon around the Sun. Obviously, we can’t replicate the scale of that experiment, but, we can do it on a smaller scale.

I am not a physics expert, but even to my untrained eye, I think there is potential here. I will try to formulate them in a post on my blog shortly.

]]> By: shiv http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/08/28/612/comment-page-1/#comment-19994 shiv Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:49:21 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/08/28/612/#comment-19994 I saw the video posted in the companies site where the two guys into this give some overall gyan about the process. The chap on the video says that there is some 'movement' of the current carrying conductor w.r.t the magnetic field . The example given was that of coming down hill. Bit of sophistry, but alas it makes no sense to me. Seems to be another ramar pillai with magic petrol...Maybe they want to attract some funding and this is free publicity. I saw the video posted in the companies site where the two guys into this give some overall gyan about the process. The chap on the video says that there is some ‘movement’ of the current carrying conductor w.r.t the magnetic field . The example given was that of coming down hill. Bit of sophistry, but alas it makes no sense to me. Seems to be another ramar pillai with magic petrol…Maybe they want to attract some funding and this is free publicity.

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