1) Let’s us fight back. Form groups of like minded hindus, unite together, be prepared and keep a watch on mullas in your area.

We must form organisations that are independent of political and public scrutiny. Such organisations will only work for the benefit of hinduism and Bharat. All dirty tricks can be used to enforce hindu’s interests.

2) Indian hindus should work with LTTE and teach pakistan what exactly terrorism is.

3) Enough of this non-violence non-sense.

4) Next India should again divide pakistan in two or three parts taking benefit of its internal racial conflicts such as wazirstan and sindh and dispute with Afghanistan and Russia. This will break back of this terrorist nation for another 30-40 years.

5) India should also not spare China who has basically supported pakistan in order to distract India from becoming a world power.

India should unite pacific nations, support taiwan, south korea, vietnam, cambodia, japan and indonesia to fight against china. India should play politcal and military support to these small nations who are afraid of china’s imperialism.

6) Finally, Iran. Many Iranian spies have entered India as Iranian students. The Varanasi blasts were handiwork of Iranian spies, ISI and SIMI.

To take revenge on these middle eastern scums.. join Israel, give them logistic and political support.

If the government of India doesn’t have guts for massive retaliatory strike against Pakistan, it should at least bleed it to death. Mohajirs have to be supported against non-Mohajirs, non-Punjabis against Punjabis, Baluchis against non-Baluchis, and in every way possible. India has to support the minorities there, who are really oppressed while those in India are strangely pampered. Arms, political,and ‘moral’ support should be given for the liberation of Baluchis and whoever else wants it.

The bomb blasts in Pakistan obviously caused by warring factions of Muslims show that the Pakistani society is very fragmented unlike India. I have never heard of a bomb blast by a Hindu or Hindu organization in India. If Pakistani sponsored or ‘morally’ supported terrorism is going to kill innocent people in India, I say that we should kill innocent people in Pakistan. If they kill in hundreds, we should kill in thousands. Two eyes for one eye, and all teeth for one tooth. The warrior strength of Indians in Shivaji, Maharaja Ranjit Singh, and Rana Pratap Singh has to be unleashed. If the battle is taken to their own streets, then probably, if good sense prevails, moderate Pakistani citizens will rise, revolt against the Pakistani government and fundamentalistic mullahs, and make peace with India. If not, they have to reap for what they have sown.

If Pakistan continues to do what it is doing, I say that we should threaten them and in fact nuclear bomb them. Yes, they will retaliate, but I don’t believe that 1.1 billion Indians can be destroyed by their bombs, but I’m sure that Pakistan will be razed to ground, never to recover, and lost in history. India should prepare for such a situation. I don’t think China will join in the war. They are too clever for that. They know that India can injure China, and if not, its long term security will be in jeopardy from a rising and defeated India.

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You don’t have to wait for intelligence agencies to release their trademark identikit pictures to know the faces behind Mumbai’s serial blast. Those fuzzy, looks-like-everyman sketches can’t tell you anything what Abdul Razzaq can. Or what Mohammed Waliullah can. Razzaq and Waliullah are not foreign mercenaries. They are from here. They are the faces of India’s very own homegrown jihadi network. They tell the story of how astonishingly unprepared our internal security establishment is, of how the UPA’s politics is not allowing a committed policy against terror.

Razzaq was trained by Lashkar-e-Toiba in Muzaffarabad last year. His mission was to target his country — India. He had decided however to take a detour: fight the Americans in Iraq first before going back to his native city, Hyderabad.

But the Intelligence establishment under the UPA is in denial. The comfortable theory about terrorism is that it is imported into this country. And that is still true. But the UPA, it seems, simply can’t accept that jihad now has a domestic manufacturing facility. Shivraj Patil wants us to think of boys gone astray. But his men have done little about massive recruitment by banned SIMI splinter groups, which head-hunt for jihadis by using Gujarat riots as a motivational tool.

Of course, when you talk of Gujarat you have to blame the NDA… But let the UPA not say it doesn’t play politics with terror. And because it has allowed politics to infiltrate anti-terror policy, the total number of terrorist modules busted in 2005 was only a third of the figure in 2004 (the UPA came to power in May 2004). In operational terms, this means terrorists were allowed to entrench themselves and found it easy to carry the jihadi propaganda to young men in cities like Hyderabad and Bangalore.

Terror is practised by local recruits. PM won’t hear it from security advisers

Nonetheless, I stand by what Gandhi says. What he meant was that just because innocent civillians were killed by goons, it should not translate into innocent civillians being killed somewhere else. I fear very much that is what’s going to happen. Let us hope there is no mindless retribution and revenge.

All this aside, what exactly are you trying to say? What do you propose should the Indian government do?

What Gandhi told applies to citizens; not to Governments. I think he himself told that non-violence is for individuals and not always applicable to Governments. Thats why we had some military(and did not disband it completely in the name of non-violence) on Independence.

I dont know where to begin here!
perhaps reading gandhis works itself.
India DID shrink the size of its military till the wonderful liberation of aksai chin.
Also as an individual why shouldnt he be the worse mofo possible that any one can imagine when they want to RAPE his BHARAT MAAn….
If some one threatened me personaly i would react violently.
GWB is right in taking the Jeehaad to Jeehaadis, unfortunately he forgot Jeddah in the intermediary step….
I am hoping that the hindus buddhist sikhs jains and athiests agnostics from india do see it in its appropriate historical context.

Passivity and apathy create an interesting vicious cycle. We don’t care enough about each and every Indian to improve anything and since we are too passive to change anything, we can not allow ourselves to feel any compassion.

Apparently we don’t. In India, we love losers. Losers are given freebie into schools, colleges, and jobs. We love losers like Ramadoss to fire winners like Venugopal from his job. We love losers like Manmohan be in charge when things are falling apart. We are told Gita is just mythology. In reality, we have proved to be sissies’ decade after decade, century after century.

Its because of the inefficiency of the successive heads of India that such incidents happen repeatedly. http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/jul/12sai.htm?q=sp&file=.htm is a good article.

You have written repeatedly that the head of state doesnt know the pain. Sonia Gandhi lost her husband to terrorism. But when she has done little to punish those who made her suffer, what can you expect from her when some one on the streets is affected by terrorism?

If all those had been done in US, it would have been a different story.

As for Prithiviraj Chauhan in your previous post, he won in 1191 and lost in 1192. I believe the mistake of 1191 was repeated in 1971. But I wish 1192 doesnt happen again.

Atanu’s reponse: Gandhi advocated passivity to governments also. He wrote to the Prime Minister of England and told him to turn his country over to the Germans without a fight. He said that this will teach the Germans how wrong they are and they will go back to Germany without hurting a fly.

The man was seriously deluded.

Do not infer that I justify or condone the killings in anyway. You can only hate impotent cowards who choose to attack civillians. Action is required to track and eliminate whoever those bastards are. But in no way can there be justification for attacking innocent civillians elsewhere to show that India is aggressive or that we are not a soft target.

And, by and by, which country is not a soft target against terrorist attacks? Spain, US, UK, Israel, Russia, Indonesia…. all of them targets!

Atanu’s response: Shreyas, it is immoral to kill innocent civilians in response to acts of terrorism. You perhaps subconsciously wish to do that. Because no one has proposed, least of all me, that innocent civilians should be killed in retaliation. You are reading things that is not implied by what I wrote.

About making a credible threat to retaliate if harmed being the best strategy for minimizing violence in a system: it is a no-brainer. Only severely deluded people can seriously believe that being nice to those who would kill you will turn them into saints.

Reading the response from this particular reader at IE only brings a great sense of tiredness and foreboding. Must of these clueless dolts would never understand a single idea all through their lives. So they replace it with tired old bluff and bluster.