Comments on: On Violence Against Women http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:41:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Neha http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/comment-page-1/#comment-9055 Neha Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:56:48 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/#comment-9055 Hi..I am working on a documentary film , which talks about women of modern India.. I would like to speak with you about this. Unfortunately I do not have your contact number & hence thought of posting this.. Could you please call me up , my no is: 98206 88903 & my mail Id is Nehajoshi8@hotmail.com Hi..I am working on a documentary film , which talks about women of modern India..

I would like to speak with you about this.
Unfortunately I do not have your contact number & hence thought of posting this..

Could you please call me up , my no is: 98206 88903 & my mail Id is Nehajoshi8@hotmail.com

]]> By: Vijay http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6453 Vijay Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:14:03 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/#comment-6453 The Blank Noise Project was a wonderful drive to bring out the opinions out into the public domain and shake awaken the public conscience My Blog : http://India-IT-Pulse.blogspot.com Vijay The Blank Noise Project was a wonderful drive to bring out the opinions out into the public domain and shake awaken the public conscience

My Blog : http://India-IT-Pulse.blogspot.com

Vijay

]]> By: Nandkumar Saravade http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6257 Nandkumar Saravade Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:41:29 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/#comment-6257 This reminds me of the Pulse Polio campaign to eradicate tenacious diseases. No amount of individual vaccination will work against these even if continued over a long time and only a 'pulse' programme, which flushes out the disease, can succeed. To use some rather mundane imagery, it is the difference between pouring mug after mug of water in the loo, versus putting a bucketful! The results are markedly different. This reminds me of the Pulse Polio campaign to eradicate tenacious diseases. No amount of individual vaccination will work against these even if continued over a long time and only a ‘pulse’ programme, which flushes out the disease, can succeed. To use some rather mundane imagery, it is the difference between pouring mug after mug of water in the loo, versus putting a bucketful! The results are markedly different.

]]> By: Abhijat http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6233 Abhijat Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:59:43 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/#comment-6233 Atanu, We are mixing up human sexuality and women into the core problem - harassment. Harassment of any person should be the target of the law - it's plain bullying. A bully uses sexuality as a tool to harass, and 'defend' his/her act; that should not penalise the freedom of sexual expression of both men and women. A bully targets those (s)he perceives as 'weak'. Introducing the women as the 'affected target' tacitly admits them as the 'weak' - something that women are not; they are as much strong or weak as any man. Legally, or socially recognising them as 'weak' merely makes them excellent targets of a bully. I'd rather have the law, and the society address any harassment to anybody - man or woman or children or any life, using any means - sexuality or status or any other. Violence against women is at least voiced out and heard. I fear that attaching sexual and gender issues with harassment could adversely affect normal sexual and gender interactions. Simultaneous with penalising harassment, I see a need to correct the classic "Men from Mars/Women from Venus" defenses so that the focus is "We are here together on the Earth". Just a seed for the "different and long discussion" :). Atanu,

We are mixing up human sexuality and women into the core problem – harassment. Harassment of any person should be the target of the law – it’s plain bullying. A bully uses sexuality as a tool to harass, and ‘defend’ his/her act; that should not penalise the freedom of sexual expression of both men and women. A bully targets those (s)he perceives as ‘weak’. Introducing the women as the ‘affected target’ tacitly admits them as the ‘weak’ – something that women are not; they are as much strong or weak as any man. Legally, or socially recognising them as ‘weak’ merely makes them excellent targets of a bully.

I’d rather have the law, and the society address any harassment to anybody – man or woman or children or any life, using any means – sexuality or status or any other. Violence against women is at least voiced out and heard. I fear that attaching sexual and gender issues with harassment could adversely affect normal sexual and gender interactions.

Simultaneous with penalising harassment, I see a need to correct the classic “Men from Mars/Women from Venus” defenses so that the focus is “We are here together on the Earth”.

Just a seed for the “different and long discussion” :) .

]]> By: Parvati http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6232 Parvati Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:31:44 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/#comment-6232 http://knownturf.blogspot.com/2006/03/streets-stories-strategies.html This truly affected me. http://knownturf.blogspot.com/2006/03/streets-stories-strategies.html

This truly affected me.

]]> By: Parvati http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6229 Parvati Thu, 09 Mar 2006 05:24:54 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/#comment-6229 True. Everything that you say. But always, there is an indifference in all except in the victim of harassment, or of whatever other crimes. I think if the law is unpardoning and truly harsh, then our next problem to deal with will be implementation and execution of the said law; otherwise, it is a long process of getting the law made - comes not at all easily for the Indian parliament, or does so only in cases like the Shah Bano case. Bills get passed into laws in the blink of an eye for injustice to reign supreme. True. Everything that you say. But always, there is an indifference in all except in the victim of harassment, or of whatever other crimes. I think if the law is unpardoning and truly harsh, then our next problem to deal with will be implementation and execution of the said law; otherwise, it is a long process of getting the law made – comes not at all easily for the Indian parliament, or does so only in cases like the Shah Bano case. Bills get passed into laws in the blink of an eye for injustice to reign supreme.

]]> By: Nitin http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6228 Nitin Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:55:03 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/#comment-6228 Atanu, In 'steady state' as engineers would term it, mere enforcement of rule of law can prevent such crimes. But right now, the situation is hardly in a 'steady state'; where the crime is so ubiquitous that it is considered too unimportant to be tackled. Therefore, as you argue, the deterrence value of exemplary punishment is a useful tool to combat this crime. The punishments have to be so far out of proportion to the misdemeanor (because the currently perceived probability of actually being punished is small) so that the 'expected value' of the crime still deters the potential criminal. Once the perceived probability of punishment goes up, then the sentencing can be made lighter. It still makes sense to have it on the rule books though...I recall Naveen Mandava had posted on this a few days back. That said, the Indian judicial system is unlikely to implement any of this any time soon. Atanu,

In ’steady state’ as engineers would term it, mere enforcement of rule of law can prevent such crimes.

But right now, the situation is hardly in a ’steady state’; where the crime is so ubiquitous that it is considered too unimportant to be tackled. Therefore, as you argue, the deterrence value of exemplary punishment is a useful tool to combat this crime. The punishments have to be so far out of proportion to the misdemeanor (because the currently perceived probability of actually being punished is small) so that the ‘expected value’ of the crime still deters the potential criminal. Once the perceived probability of punishment goes up, then the sentencing can be made lighter. It still makes sense to have it on the rule books though…I recall Naveen Mandava had posted on this a few days back.

That said, the Indian judicial system is unlikely to implement any of this any time soon.

]]> By: Sahil http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6227 Sahil Thu, 09 Mar 2006 01:54:18 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/03/08/on-violence-against-women/#comment-6227 People are rational beings? Would you please then explain to me why so many of them continue playing the lotto? ;-) People are rational beings? Would you please then explain to me why so many of them continue playing the lotto? ;-)

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