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		<title>By: Parvati</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/01/28/a-slow-sort-of-country/comment-page-1/#comment-5375</link>
		<dc:creator>Parvati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your proposal for cleaning up the education-act in India is awaited by me and many others too, I am sure..

Patience
Always pays :)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your proposal for cleaning up the education-act in India is awaited by me and many others too, I am sure..</p>
<p>Patience<br />
Always pays <img src='http://www.deeshaa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patel</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/01/28/a-slow-sort-of-country/comment-page-1/#comment-5362</link>
		<dc:creator>Patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a possible solution. I don&#039;t know how easy it would be to implement. First it involves opening up the educational sector. Not very easy to do. But as you said Atanu in your interview, due to WTO rules, this will happen eventually regardless of the resistance put up by the gatekeepers. 

What the government should do is offer private &quot;for profit&quot; institutions a percentage of the tax revenue generated by each of the school&#039;s students. Say for example a school has 1000 students. The government can promise to give x% of all taxes collected from each student up to a maximum of y dollars for z years. This would create a situation where the school would not only have a pivotal role in the students education, but also assisting them in finding employment, and making sure that they pay their taxes. 

The government for its part can direct education by offering a higher or lower percentage of the tax revenue for different fields i.e. IT, metallurgy, programing...

Possible challenges would be:

1. Imaginary schools/students used to generate revenues. This issue can be tackled by the creation of an independent regulartory authority similar to the SEBI. 

2. Private schools simply pluck out the talented students in public schools at the end of their education to try and maximize their profits. I wonder if taking the brightest students out and offering them a better education. But perhaps requiring schools to &quot;adopt&quot; students for a minimum of say 6 years can take care of this issue. 

Ultimately, this will make more efficient use of tax revenue, garrauntee greater tax compliance by the next generation, and make a much easier transition for students for acedemia to industry.

Anybody see any major flaws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a possible solution. I don&#8217;t know how easy it would be to implement. First it involves opening up the educational sector. Not very easy to do. But as you said Atanu in your interview, due to WTO rules, this will happen eventually regardless of the resistance put up by the gatekeepers. </p>
<p>What the government should do is offer private &#8220;for profit&#8221; institutions a percentage of the tax revenue generated by each of the school&#8217;s students. Say for example a school has 1000 students. The government can promise to give x% of all taxes collected from each student up to a maximum of y dollars for z years. This would create a situation where the school would not only have a pivotal role in the students education, but also assisting them in finding employment, and making sure that they pay their taxes. </p>
<p>The government for its part can direct education by offering a higher or lower percentage of the tax revenue for different fields i.e. IT, metallurgy, programing&#8230;</p>
<p>Possible challenges would be:</p>
<p>1. Imaginary schools/students used to generate revenues. This issue can be tackled by the creation of an independent regulartory authority similar to the SEBI. </p>
<p>2. Private schools simply pluck out the talented students in public schools at the end of their education to try and maximize their profits. I wonder if taking the brightest students out and offering them a better education. But perhaps requiring schools to &#8220;adopt&#8221; students for a minimum of say 6 years can take care of this issue. </p>
<p>Ultimately, this will make more efficient use of tax revenue, garrauntee greater tax compliance by the next generation, and make a much easier transition for students for acedemia to industry.</p>
<p>Anybody see any major flaws?</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek S</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2006/01/28/a-slow-sort-of-country/comment-page-1/#comment-5361</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivek S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sometimes surprised that in a mediocre performing nation, how atleast IT works and people are making huge profits. 

The GDP will grow; We will have excellent cars, mobiles and i-Pod and whatever. 

Bangalore is a lesson. Some years before people said &quot;Bangalore rocks!!!&quot; Now I hear the other way &quot;Bangalore sucks!!!&quot; Still the MNCs are there and GDP is high there. Having all the MNCs and having lots of money doesnt make sense if people travel 2 hours inhaling CO2 or CO to office under stress. 

Singling out reason for the mess the nation is? &quot;Corruption&quot;. No matter the Government is socialistic or capitalistic or whatever, if &quot;corruption&quot; is not eliminated in the minds, then anything will be in a mess.

I always hear bureaucrats are a problem. But there is this collector, in the district of Nagapattinam, who became so famous because of his relief measures during the Tsunami, that people protested against his transfer and he was asked to stay back.

So, all bureaucrats are great?

Instead of seeing things as either &quot;black&quot; or &quot;white&quot;, we should look at things which paint everything black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sometimes surprised that in a mediocre performing nation, how atleast IT works and people are making huge profits. </p>
<p>The GDP will grow; We will have excellent cars, mobiles and i-Pod and whatever. </p>
<p>Bangalore is a lesson. Some years before people said &#8220;Bangalore rocks!!!&#8221; Now I hear the other way &#8220;Bangalore sucks!!!&#8221; Still the MNCs are there and GDP is high there. Having all the MNCs and having lots of money doesnt make sense if people travel 2 hours inhaling CO2 or CO to office under stress. </p>
<p>Singling out reason for the mess the nation is? &#8220;Corruption&#8221;. No matter the Government is socialistic or capitalistic or whatever, if &#8220;corruption&#8221; is not eliminated in the minds, then anything will be in a mess.</p>
<p>I always hear bureaucrats are a problem. But there is this collector, in the district of Nagapattinam, who became so famous because of his relief measures during the Tsunami, that people protested against his transfer and he was asked to stay back.</p>
<p>So, all bureaucrats are great?</p>
<p>Instead of seeing things as either &#8220;black&#8221; or &#8220;white&#8221;, we should look at things which paint everything black.</p>
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		<title>By: Navin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT is only an &quot;add on&quot;. A &quot;nice to have&quot;.

Its not the panacea to India&#039;s educational problems.

Lot of people are hyped up by the GDP growth and India Shining story just because they see new models of a. Cars
b. Cellphones in the market. 

What they don&#039;t realise is thousands of people slogging to produce millions of garments and export to West in exchange for a singe airplane. :-(

We are abysmal in productivity and R&amp;D capabilities mainly because of third world infrastructure we have. 

We always stay few years behind the curve in technology (although we call ourselves IT super power). Here in London, Blackberry and Wireless Internet are commonplace but I hear in India its a luxury.


I sometimes wonder if I have to keep ranting like this forever :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT is only an &#8220;add on&#8221;. A &#8220;nice to have&#8221;.</p>
<p>Its not the panacea to India&#8217;s educational problems.</p>
<p>Lot of people are hyped up by the GDP growth and India Shining story just because they see new models of a. Cars<br />
b. Cellphones in the market. </p>
<p>What they don&#8217;t realise is thousands of people slogging to produce millions of garments and export to West in exchange for a singe airplane. <img src='http://www.deeshaa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We are abysmal in productivity and R&amp;D capabilities mainly because of third world infrastructure we have. </p>
<p>We always stay few years behind the curve in technology (although we call ourselves IT super power). Here in London, Blackberry and Wireless Internet are commonplace but I hear in India its a luxury.</p>
<p>I sometimes wonder if I have to keep ranting like this forever <img src='http://www.deeshaa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: seven_times_six</title>
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		<dc:creator>seven_times_six</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abhishek:
&lt;i&gt;Itâ€™s way too difficult really to single out any one reason for the mess.&lt;/i&gt;

There is; this belief you and others have in centralized authority. The belief that it is a centralized govt forced by &quot;informed citizens&quot; which should &quot;spur development&quot;. 

People are adept enough to create prosperity if the govt does not create obstacles in their path. The key element is not &quot;enabling&quot; but &quot;not disabling&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abhishek:<br />
<i>Itâ€™s way too difficult really to single out any one reason for the mess.</i></p>
<p>There is; this belief you and others have in centralized authority. The belief that it is a centralized govt forced by &#8220;informed citizens&#8221; which should &#8220;spur development&#8221;. </p>
<p>People are adept enough to create prosperity if the govt does not create obstacles in their path. The key element is not &#8220;enabling&#8221; but &#8220;not disabling&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: seven_times_six</title>
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		<dc:creator>seven_times_six</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that Education is an area of market failure; more so for higher education, but also for primary education.

That is because the good universities and schools are never those that SEEK to make a lot of money/profit; in fact most of the great private universities in the US are all non-profit institutions managed by trustees.

I&#039;m not saying anything about accountability, which is a must; I&#039;m just saying an institution like Harvard or MIT  cannot come up by &quot;market forces&quot;.


A specific analysis of the forces of incentives and accountability at play in the education sector is thus a must, due to its differing nature from normal market forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that Education is an area of market failure; more so for higher education, but also for primary education.</p>
<p>That is because the good universities and schools are never those that SEEK to make a lot of money/profit; in fact most of the great private universities in the US are all non-profit institutions managed by trustees.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying anything about accountability, which is a must; I&#8217;m just saying an institution like Harvard or MIT  cannot come up by &#8220;market forces&#8221;.</p>
<p>A specific analysis of the forces of incentives and accountability at play in the education sector is thus a must, due to its differing nature from normal market forces.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhishek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atanu, I personally believe that IT can be an enabler. Laptops are no solution though. 

Let&#039;s see. Why not implement a thin client model connected to a server which in turn is broadband enabled? From a central server, it might be possible to download engaging content. The entire computing takes place at the server end which makes it easy and simple to upgrade if need be. Plus, rich multimedia content can have it&#039;s own advantages. Content creators would get meaningful employment too. It has the potential. 

Primarily, the human development indicators are way behing the developed nations. Interestingly Kerela seems to buck the national trend. I would be aghast if someone points out that it&#039;s the commies at the forefront. Land distribution reforms may have played some part though. West Bengal is a study in contrast. 

The idea here is that people haven&#039;t forced the elected representattives to step up investment in health care (which fell to 0.9% of GDP in 2001). Ditto for education sector. This is because of the grand staging of the elected &quot;idiots&quot; as you call them, to keep the country illiterate. 

This suits their purpose. An illiterate dude wouldn&#039;t question. Almost next to nil awareness. And at election time, he would be happy with his &quot;tharra&quot; (or liquor). It doesn&#039;t bother him whether or not agricultural subsidies are phased out in Europe. Or Retail entry would actually affect the &quot;mom and pop&quot; stores. 

A vast majority of the plain graduates (BA or BCom) are found to be unemployable. Literacy here too is doubtful in realistic terms. Add to the pressure of no job creation and we have a vast underemployed population. 

Finally,IT is a hogwash. Seriously. A new age cyber coolism with innumerable army of morons working in &quot;call centres&quot; do no good for the nation&#039;s image. We have one of the worst telecom infrastructure; BSNL&#039;s majority of the exchanges are outdated. 

It&#039;s way too difficult really to single out any one reason for the mess. It&#039;s a complex whole inter related tangle that would only solve itself out when we need a change. When there would be felt demand. Otherwise,it&#039;s status quo.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu, I personally believe that IT can be an enabler. Laptops are no solution though. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see. Why not implement a thin client model connected to a server which in turn is broadband enabled? From a central server, it might be possible to download engaging content. The entire computing takes place at the server end which makes it easy and simple to upgrade if need be. Plus, rich multimedia content can have it&#8217;s own advantages. Content creators would get meaningful employment too. It has the potential. </p>
<p>Primarily, the human development indicators are way behing the developed nations. Interestingly Kerela seems to buck the national trend. I would be aghast if someone points out that it&#8217;s the commies at the forefront. Land distribution reforms may have played some part though. West Bengal is a study in contrast. </p>
<p>The idea here is that people haven&#8217;t forced the elected representattives to step up investment in health care (which fell to 0.9% of GDP in 2001). Ditto for education sector. This is because of the grand staging of the elected &#8220;idiots&#8221; as you call them, to keep the country illiterate. </p>
<p>This suits their purpose. An illiterate dude wouldn&#8217;t question. Almost next to nil awareness. And at election time, he would be happy with his &#8220;tharra&#8221; (or liquor). It doesn&#8217;t bother him whether or not agricultural subsidies are phased out in Europe. Or Retail entry would actually affect the &#8220;mom and pop&#8221; stores. </p>
<p>A vast majority of the plain graduates (BA or BCom) are found to be unemployable. Literacy here too is doubtful in realistic terms. Add to the pressure of no job creation and we have a vast underemployed population. </p>
<p>Finally,IT is a hogwash. Seriously. A new age cyber coolism with innumerable army of morons working in &#8220;call centres&#8221; do no good for the nation&#8217;s image. We have one of the worst telecom infrastructure; BSNL&#8217;s majority of the exchanges are outdated. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s way too difficult really to single out any one reason for the mess. It&#8217;s a complex whole inter related tangle that would only solve itself out when we need a change. When there would be felt demand. Otherwise,it&#8217;s status quo.</p>
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