Comments on: Ill Fares the Land . . . http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:44:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: santosh http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-3339 santosh Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:52:14 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-3339 A very horrified and sad story but not uncommon either. It is habbit of Adults to vent their anger on weaker section of the society, in this case, a child and a poor man. Children are always been targets of adults for venting their anger. Poor little children.No one is coming ahead to save them from violence which they face quite often in homes and schools. Politians are useless and they don't care about it.It is up to child rights activists to think and take steps to solve this issue. A very horrified and sad story but not uncommon either. It is habbit of Adults to vent their anger on weaker section of the society, in this case, a child and a poor man. Children are always been targets of adults for venting their anger. Poor little children.No one is coming ahead to save them from violence which they face quite often in homes and schools. Politians are useless and they don’t care about it.It is up to child rights activists to think and take steps to solve this issue.

]]> By: Ritu http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-907 Ritu Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:55:33 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-907 With God's grace I have interacted with police once and I found no difference between criminal and such types of policemen. No wishes to generalize this fact for police department but what exactly they need are nice training and personal counseling. Haven’t you ever caught yourself yelling at your people when you are stressed? We are at much comfortable chair to talk with but what about those who are always surrounded by crime, politics and corruption. And such behavior is intruding in our society in every field in some magnitude! I wonder who has the key for it!!...might be lying within us! With God’s grace I have interacted with police once and I found no difference between criminal and such types of policemen. No wishes to generalize this fact for police department but what exactly they need are nice training and personal counseling. Haven’t you ever caught yourself yelling at your people when you are stressed? We are at much comfortable chair to talk with but what about those who are always surrounded by crime, politics and corruption. And such behavior is intruding in our society in every field in some magnitude! I wonder who has the key for it!!…might be lying within us!

]]> By: Eroteme http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-901 Eroteme Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:14:18 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-901 Been a while. What you raise is a valid concern and this is true even when the person being beaten up is not at fault. Parents beating children for pestering them, or wives for the heck of it, etc. are incidents which go ahead to reflect that human beings as such would met out physical violence on regular basis just to keep themselves sane and feel good (aka powerful) about it. Very sad. It is unfortunate that we are mindful of the large and supposedly far-reaching things in the world but are so inattentive to the real and simply gross things around us... Been a while.
What you raise is a valid concern and this is true even when the person being beaten up is not at fault. Parents beating children for pestering them, or wives for the heck of it, etc. are incidents which go ahead to reflect that human beings as such would met out physical violence on regular basis just to keep themselves sane and feel good (aka powerful) about it. Very sad. It is unfortunate that we are mindful of the large and supposedly far-reaching things in the world but are so inattentive to the real and simply gross things around us…

]]> By: Jyoti Iyer http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-889 Jyoti Iyer Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:29:34 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-889 Disgusting as this incident seems, it is just the tip of the iceberg. The children on the street in India live a life that is horrifying even by sub-human standards. What can one call a society that is largely apathetic towards the abuse of its children and women. This is the nadir of human existence in India. Disgusting as this incident seems, it is just the tip of the iceberg. The children on the street in India live a life that is horrifying even by sub-human standards. What can one call a society that is largely apathetic towards the abuse of its children and women. This is the nadir of human existence in India.

]]> By: Sukumar Chatterjee http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-881 Sukumar Chatterjee Sun, 05 Jun 2005 09:17:51 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-881 Very disturbing indeed. I don't think the so-called education which we have in India is going to help. The ability to read, write and doing maths only is not an education. We need a different type of education. What is missing in India is man-making education which gives us a blend of scientific, ethical and moral values. In the absence of these values, people will behave live like beasts. Even the so-called highly educated people in India keep often keep poor children at home as servants, use them as cheap labour and beat them occassionally. So a degree from IIT, IIM or any university is not going to help at all. You can't change it at all with the current type of education. His/her greed, selfishness and disregard for humane values will only increase with the level of education he/she gets. Very disturbing indeed. I don’t think the so-called education which we have in India is going to help. The ability to read, write and doing maths only is not an education. We need a different type of education. What is missing in India is man-making education which gives us a blend of scientific, ethical and moral values. In the absence of these values, people will behave live like beasts. Even the so-called highly educated people in India keep often keep poor children at home as servants, use them as cheap labour and beat them occassionally. So a degree from IIT, IIM or any university is not going to help at all. You can’t change it at all with the current type of education. His/her greed, selfishness and disregard for humane values will only increase with the level of education he/she gets.

]]> By: pardeshi http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-879 pardeshi Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:30:21 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-879 Dear Atanu, Beating up a child is not necessarily an indicateur of our underdevelopment nor civilization ; pygmies in africa and indians in amazonian forests cherish their children. In harsh survival atmosphere people forget all human values ; in communal riots ,we are capable of behaving worse. I am wondering who will educate an average citizen . Dear Atanu,
Beating up a child is not necessarily an indicateur of our underdevelopment nor civilization ; pygmies in africa and indians in amazonian forests cherish their children. In harsh survival atmosphere people forget all human values ; in communal riots ,we are capable of behaving worse. I am wondering who will educate an average citizen .

]]> By: Siddhartha http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-878 Siddhartha Sat, 04 Jun 2005 15:49:20 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-878 People have to realise the gruesomeness of beating up children. This goes on everywhere. I've heard of children being beat to almost death by their teachers and even parents. Growing up like this, they are nescient of the proper behaviour towards children. Change in this kind of attitude thus have to start right from the homes and schools. People have to realise the gruesomeness of beating up children. This goes on everywhere. I’ve heard of children being beat to almost death by their teachers and even parents. Growing up like this, they are nescient of the proper behaviour towards children. Change in this kind of attitude thus have to start right from the homes and schools.

]]> By: Psychotic Rambings Of A Mad Man… » Blog Archive » The Bharateeya Blog Mela, PRM Edition http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-877 Psychotic Rambings Of A Mad Man… » Blog Archive » The Bharateeya Blog Mela, PRM Edition Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:29:08 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-877 [...] ing promoted by the Indian Express, that the AIDS epidemic in India is well under control. Atanu Dey and Charu, meanwhile have very moving writings on the burning issue of Ch [...] [...] ing promoted by the Indian Express, that the AIDS epidemic in India is well under control. Atanu Dey and Charu, meanwhile have very moving writings on the burning issue of Ch [...]

]]> By: Ravi http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-875 Ravi Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:20:15 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-875 I'm touched by your writing and cannot help but be disgusted by this news. The second part to my short tale - set in Mumbai & featuring unfortunate street children - http://ravikumar.blogdrive.com/archive/230.html will actually continue from a 6 yr old's perspective. Do read the same, if & when you can! :( I’m touched by your writing and cannot help but be disgusted by this news. The second part to my short tale – set in Mumbai & featuring unfortunate street children – http://ravikumar.blogdrive.com/archive/230.html will actually continue from a 6 yr old’s perspective. Do read the same, if & when you can! :(

]]> By: Antonio http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-874 Antonio Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:31:29 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-874 Hi Atanu You should write a letter-to-the-editor to Mid-Day. Hi Atanu

You should write a letter-to-the-editor to Mid-Day.

]]> By: A Time To Reflect » Children… http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-873 A Time To Reflect » Children… Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:28:06 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-873 [...] dren and youth — charukesi @ 18.52 Please read Atanu’s disturbing piece Ill fares the land on dehumanization and a misguided sense of morality… And [...] [...] dren and youth — charukesi @ 18.52 Please read Atanu’s disturbing piece Ill fares the land on dehumanization and a misguided sense of morality… And [...]

]]> By: Charu http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-872 Charu Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:12:24 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-872 I notice that you have posted it under 'corruption' - very apt. I notice that you have posted it under ‘corruption’ – very apt.

]]> By: annie http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-871 annie Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:06:12 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-871 I just did... throw up in disgust, that is. I just did… throw up in disgust, that is.

]]> By: Charu http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-870 Charu Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:05:00 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-870 Very disturbing... They did not beat up the child because they don't value children - but beause it was not their child - what you call dehumanisation? This is about power - the child is smaller and vulnerable - and about a misguided sense of morality... It is disgusting to think that there was not one single voice in that crowd to ptotest against this - and I hate to think about what happened to the child at the police station / remand home Very disturbing… They did not beat up the child because they don’t value children – but beause it was not their child – what you call dehumanisation? This is about power – the child is smaller and vulnerable – and about a misguided sense of morality… It is disgusting to think that there was not one single voice in that crowd to ptotest against this – and I hate to think about what happened to the child at the police station / remand home

]]> By: Akash http://www.deeshaa.org/2005/06/02/ill-fares-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-869 Akash Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:58:39 +0000 http://www.deeshaa.org/archives/2005/04/18/ill-fares-the-land#comment-869 I think the level of dehumanization that occurs in a society is directly proportional to how competitive survival in a society is. In a developed society like the United States, the citizenry dehumanize citizens of other countries in order to stay competitive in the global arena. In developing nations like India, we dehumanize ourselves against everyone who is not a friend or a relation. Below us are the beasts of the jungle who even would eat their own offspring in times of dire need. I would like to hope the ultimate goal of society to eliminate dehumanization of any form. I think the level of dehumanization that occurs in a society is directly proportional to how competitive survival in a society is. In a developed society like the United States, the citizenry dehumanize citizens of other countries in order to stay competitive in the global arena. In developing nations like India, we dehumanize ourselves against everyone who is not a friend or a relation. Below us are the beasts of the jungle who even would eat their own offspring in times of dire need. I would like to hope the ultimate goal of society to eliminate dehumanization of any form.

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