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		<title>By: Population - A Human problem &#171; World is Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Population - A Human problem &#171; World is Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 04:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] me understand the consequences of population growth many years back. Lets read what Atanu Dey has to say on this: In 1965, about 40 years ago, there were less than 500 million of us. By 2004, the population of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Amit Kulkarni</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2004/05/18/people-matter-indias-population-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Kulkarni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atanu:

The old way to control overpopulation was to conduct wars. If you try to understand why different societies impose different rules, you will get the answer for future control of population. But, a common thread in ALL religions is this...Remember I am talking a timeline of more than 5000 years, i.e more than recorded history.

Here is my take on some things without any bullshit

*) Why were boy children preferred ? to fight wars
*) Why can men have multiple wives? 
   So they can create more children, 1 woman and 5 men won&#039;t create more children.
*) Why are women persecuted?
   So they can be dominated by men in societal rules, and be forced to accept inferior status.
   Succession is oldest son, son preferred over daughter.
   Many women are adept at physical things compared to some men, but their abilities are suppressed in our society.

Why all the background? Have you looked at the sex ratio? More males than females. Possibly, religion will go for a toss in the next few hundred years. Discontent. Murder. Kidnap. &quot;Darr&quot; type violence in which Shahrukh lusts after Juhi. Compromises. Possible multiple male partners.

Weak Animals die
Weak humans ==&gt; poor

Solution?
Radical ==&gt; Wars (old way maybe)
Currently practised ==&gt; educate, climb food chain
Problem ==&gt; climbing life expectancy
Culprit ==&gt; Science?
Reality check ==&gt; increasing pollution, more natural disasters, skewed sex ratio, migration to countries with negative birth rates.

They are crying &quot;foreigners&quot; but the European nations will cry for migrants inside of 30 years. There is no such thing as racial purity, there is no such thing as religion, current religious practises will HAVE to adapt. 

I strongly hate the brain washing done to all of us after childhood about religion, caste. Politicians exploit this stuff. Sonia Gandhi cares two bits about that old woman, Vajpayee cares two bits about that old woman, they just want power. I  think that it is high time we ran this as a business, albeit a non-profit business. The administrators who prove themselves to be good for their regions should be automatically promoted up the chain. Give every district collector a amount in tune with his district size, population etc. Publish an all-India rank every 3-5 years. The best performer goes to be the state boss. After 5 years, the best state boss gets to be the country boss. NO ELECTIONS. Politicians as a rule are dumb anyways.

Does that make sense? I know it is not coherent..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu:</p>
<p>The old way to control overpopulation was to conduct wars. If you try to understand why different societies impose different rules, you will get the answer for future control of population. But, a common thread in ALL religions is this&#8230;Remember I am talking a timeline of more than 5000 years, i.e more than recorded history.</p>
<p>Here is my take on some things without any bullshit</p>
<p>*) Why were boy children preferred ? to fight wars<br />
*) Why can men have multiple wives?<br />
   So they can create more children, 1 woman and 5 men won&#8217;t create more children.<br />
*) Why are women persecuted?<br />
   So they can be dominated by men in societal rules, and be forced to accept inferior status.<br />
   Succession is oldest son, son preferred over daughter.<br />
   Many women are adept at physical things compared to some men, but their abilities are suppressed in our society.</p>
<p>Why all the background? Have you looked at the sex ratio? More males than females. Possibly, religion will go for a toss in the next few hundred years. Discontent. Murder. Kidnap. &#8220;Darr&#8221; type violence in which Shahrukh lusts after Juhi. Compromises. Possible multiple male partners.</p>
<p>Weak Animals die<br />
Weak humans ==> poor</p>
<p>Solution?<br />
Radical ==> Wars (old way maybe)<br />
Currently practised ==> educate, climb food chain<br />
Problem ==> climbing life expectancy<br />
Culprit ==> Science?<br />
Reality check ==> increasing pollution, more natural disasters, skewed sex ratio, migration to countries with negative birth rates.</p>
<p>They are crying &#8220;foreigners&#8221; but the European nations will cry for migrants inside of 30 years. There is no such thing as racial purity, there is no such thing as religion, current religious practises will HAVE to adapt. </p>
<p>I strongly hate the brain washing done to all of us after childhood about religion, caste. Politicians exploit this stuff. Sonia Gandhi cares two bits about that old woman, Vajpayee cares two bits about that old woman, they just want power. I  think that it is high time we ran this as a business, albeit a non-profit business. The administrators who prove themselves to be good for their regions should be automatically promoted up the chain. Give every district collector a amount in tune with his district size, population etc. Publish an all-India rank every 3-5 years. The best performer goes to be the state boss. After 5 years, the best state boss gets to be the country boss. NO ELECTIONS. Politicians as a rule are dumb anyways.</p>
<p>Does that make sense? I know it is not coherent..</p>
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		<title>By: Venkat Ramanan</title>
		<link>http://www.deeshaa.org/2004/05/18/people-matter-indias-population-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Venkat Ramanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The model to promote administrators into bosses of state and country looks very impressive, but will this succeed in land of Jaya and Laloo remains a trillion dollar question?! Bosses feel they would get corrupted if they enter politics and so refrain from it. from what we observe, we may have to say there is fundamentally something wrong with the draft of Indian Constituion as it is being so mishandled, or the way politicians have been messing around with the constitution makes us believe so. everywhere we go, we can surely see lots of poor people, who get to vote given some gandian votes. and in this distribution process, a whole nexus of thugs and goondas crop up and make the whole process a bigger shit! there is no process 2 check who is contesting the elections. I have already mentioned this point, but would like to reiterate it again! This country will not improve unless it bans criminals from contesting in election, especially people like that doctor in bihar who leaked competitive exam question papers. A senior professor was seen supporting him.
Not only with politics, there is a fundamental trouble with people in our country. I witnessed an advocate driving recklessly and crossing the traffic signal when red light is on. it&#039;s people like him who frame the laws for breaking the rules. the other day, it happened for me to see a foreigner inside a consulate car throw wastes out of car into the road. would they do it in their country? Many more instances to write which would run to terabites in this page! People take our country and men for granted! shouldn&#039;t we ensure a strict mechanism to check such misuses and rules breaking incidents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The model to promote administrators into bosses of state and country looks very impressive, but will this succeed in land of Jaya and Laloo remains a trillion dollar question?! Bosses feel they would get corrupted if they enter politics and so refrain from it. from what we observe, we may have to say there is fundamentally something wrong with the draft of Indian Constituion as it is being so mishandled, or the way politicians have been messing around with the constitution makes us believe so. everywhere we go, we can surely see lots of poor people, who get to vote given some gandian votes. and in this distribution process, a whole nexus of thugs and goondas crop up and make the whole process a bigger shit! there is no process 2 check who is contesting the elections. I have already mentioned this point, but would like to reiterate it again! This country will not improve unless it bans criminals from contesting in election, especially people like that doctor in bihar who leaked competitive exam question papers. A senior professor was seen supporting him.<br />
Not only with politics, there is a fundamental trouble with people in our country. I witnessed an advocate driving recklessly and crossing the traffic signal when red light is on. it&#8217;s people like him who frame the laws for breaking the rules. the other day, it happened for me to see a foreigner inside a consulate car throw wastes out of car into the road. would they do it in their country? Many more instances to write which would run to terabites in this page! People take our country and men for granted! shouldn&#8217;t we ensure a strict mechanism to check such misuses and rules breaking incidents?</p>
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		<title>By: Amit Kulkarni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amit Kulkarni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venkat:

We do not respect authority i.e cops, why?

Here in the US, I know if I try to bribe them for a minor infraction they may charge me. Why?

Here they are paid better. I am not saying they are paid VERY well, which they are not, but they can squeek by without taking bribes.

What the hell can a policeman do when he is earning Rs 2000 or less in many cities in India? Not much. I can understand why they turn to bribes in order to survive.

Cops, on duty here, are allowed free food, free housing if they stay at an apartment house. How do I know this? I have a friend who is a cop. 

Why don&#039;t old/new apartment complexes sponsor 5% flats for cop families? This will ensure they have free housing nearer to their jurisdiction, and one big chunk of their income is saved. This has to be done by BUILDERS or politicians. This will also ensure that the state doesn&#039;t carry the whole burden of providing for them. People have to carry it too, this will also help in the reduction of crime rate. Building residents can just call the friendly neighbourhood cop(s) for settling any problems. There are approx 40,000 cops in Mumbai, spread them over 10-20,000 societies it is cheap. They have to be given decent housing, so they earn respect from us. 

Anybody care to forward this to the right person(s)?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venkat:</p>
<p>We do not respect authority i.e cops, why?</p>
<p>Here in the US, I know if I try to bribe them for a minor infraction they may charge me. Why?</p>
<p>Here they are paid better. I am not saying they are paid VERY well, which they are not, but they can squeek by without taking bribes.</p>
<p>What the hell can a policeman do when he is earning Rs 2000 or less in many cities in India? Not much. I can understand why they turn to bribes in order to survive.</p>
<p>Cops, on duty here, are allowed free food, free housing if they stay at an apartment house. How do I know this? I have a friend who is a cop. </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t old/new apartment complexes sponsor 5% flats for cop families? This will ensure they have free housing nearer to their jurisdiction, and one big chunk of their income is saved. This has to be done by BUILDERS or politicians. This will also ensure that the state doesn&#8217;t carry the whole burden of providing for them. People have to carry it too, this will also help in the reduction of crime rate. Building residents can just call the friendly neighbourhood cop(s) for settling any problems. There are approx 40,000 cops in Mumbai, spread them over 10-20,000 societies it is cheap. They have to be given decent housing, so they earn respect from us. </p>
<p>Anybody care to forward this to the right person(s)?</p>
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